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January 25, 2026 (Sunday)
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RD: Michael F. Adams
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2026/01/26/former-uga-president-michael-adams-dies-77-university-says/
Credits:
- Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.
Nominator's comments: Article is a GA. Onegreatjoke (talk) 03:00, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support GA, no apparent problems. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 03:02, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Article is GA. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 03:33, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
North American winter storm
[edit]Blurb: A major winter storm in the United States kills 10 people. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Winter Storm Fern kills 10 people in the United States.
Alternative blurb II: Winter Storm Fern, which stretched as far out as from New York to Texas, kills 10 people in the United States.
Alternative blurb III: A major winter storm causes widespread damage across North America and kills at least 10 people.
Credits:
- Nominated by Chorchapu (talk · give credit)
- Created by MarioProtIV (talk · give credit)
- Updated by WWei Mapping (talk · give credit) and Presidentofyes12 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Nominator's comments: Major winter storm in the Unites States. Effects and fatalities likely to grow. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 18:52, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose I think we should wait for the winter storm to finish and the final damage tally is announced before posting it.
- Oppose Ten deaths in a winter storm is a low number of victims, whether it happens in the US, the UK or Italy. For now, it is not ITN-worthy as events of this kind are common and natural at this time of year in the northern hemisphere. We'll discuss it if it rises to an unbearable amount. We are not going to post every news story happening in the United States. _-_Alsor (talk) 18:59, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose First world problems, barring any issue if the death toll becomes larger. Its winter in the US, storms like this will become more frequent with global warming, and there were several days' notice it was approaching. Masem (t) 19:04, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose - it's still ongoing; wait for clearer picture of impacts after the storm ends. Also Strongest possible oppose altblurb, as ONLY The Weather Channel uses that name; the NWS has not used it. WFUM🔥🌪️ (talk) 19:11, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose - All of the above reasons. It's winter and there is snow. Can we get a Snow close for this? --The Vital One (talk) 19:19, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose on notability for now. I disagree that the death toll today is the story, or that this is "just another storm" striking a rich country; heavy icing and whiteout conditions are going to disproportionately affect parts of the Deep South, Mississippi and Tennessee valleys, and the lower Appalachians, some of the poorest parts of the US. The last I heard, the snow in Alexander County, Illinois was deep enough that the county issued a travel ban because travel was too dangerous for EMS, and power infrastructure in Tennessee was collapsing under the weight of ice, and that wasn't even where the most ice was expected. We'll know for sure in the next week the true extent of this system, but as of now, this is looking most comparable to the 2021 Texas power crisis, but in far more rural and poor regions with steeper terrain that lack the infrastructure to effectively handle such. If this storm only hit, say, the Great Lakes region, we wouldn't be talking about it. Again, we'll know for sure within the next few days once the weather stops; the sheer death toll isn't ever going to be the story, though. Departure– (talk) 19:34, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- What do you think happens in other countries when they have winter storms...? _-_Alsor (talk) 19:38, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Most other countries that have regular severe winter storms have spent money creating infrastructure than can cope with it. Black Kite (talk) 09:15, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- What do you think happens in other countries when they have winter storms...? _-_Alsor (talk) 19:38, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose - personally I haven't seen that much snow outside my window for a long time. But really ... if a frigging snowstorm; and yeah, there'll be traffic accidents - perhaps more than on sunny days. 21:05, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose - Winter weather causes traffic accident. More at eleven This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 21:29, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Wait until damages are known. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 21:48, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Wait per Wildfireupdateman and Nice4What, and oppose using the unofficial name in the blurb. Very large storm stretching from Mexico to Canada, still ongoing, might end up being blurbworthy once we have a better understanding of its effects. Vanilla Wizard 💙 21:59, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Wait per Vanilla Wizard, damages and death toll could be extensive, but that won't be known for a bit. – LuniZunie(talk) 00:30, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Wait Whether this is eligible for a blurb is dependent on the bigger picture impacts, which are not yet clear. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 01:28, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- This is one of the problems with ITN. We've got a historic storm impacting about 200 million people but because it's "just one country" impacted, it won't get posted. I'm going to post "it's summer and there's a cyclone" and "global warming will only make more of these" next time some typhoon strikes a couple countries to see what response I'd get. Jessintime (talk) 01:33, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- This, not to mention it impacted almost an entire continent so narrowing it down to "just the U.S." is a bit much. – LuniZunie(talk) 01:35, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- And the newest story we've posted is now a week old Jessintime (talk) 01:39, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Its been pointed out repeatedly we cannot make news happen and weakening our standards just because ITN may be stale is not the solution. (We also have one blurb ready to go, and another that seems likely it will be posted). Masem (t) 04:42, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- And what do you think happens when there are winter storms in Europe? That they only affect France? Nonsense. And the big difference is that typhoons in Asia cause at least five times as many casualties as the storm in the United States, which is what we are talking about here. The difference is quite understandable. Winter is winter, even in North America. _-_Alsor (talk) 10:25, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- And the newest story we've posted is now a week old Jessintime (talk) 01:39, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- The bulk of the oppose !votes are really undecided "wait" votes. Those opposing solely for the reasons you describe are a vocal minority. I think this should be closed and renominated in 24 hours. It would have a higher likelihood of being posted. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 02:45, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- This, not to mention it impacted almost an entire continent so narrowing it down to "just the U.S." is a bit much. – LuniZunie(talk) 01:35, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment - original and Alt1/Alt2 are not appropriate If there is a blurb, it should not refer to the storm as having occurred/caused harm "in the United States". Mexico issued weather safty alerts in its northern states and Canadian cities like Toronto have declared the storm a major weather event. We'd also be contradicting the subject article itself, which is called January 2026 North American winter storm, and not "January 2026 United States winter storm". There are also reports in Toronto that the storm may have killed one person, with the cause of the vehicle accident being investigated 1. That number could grow. All this to say, the storm has had tough impacts across North America and not just on the United States. I have also gone to the liberty of changing the nomination title accordingly. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 05:13, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose The number of deaths is given excessive attention in the blurbs. When you look at the article, you find junk like "On January 25, there were five fatalities reported in New York City with causes as yet undisclosed." About 10,000 people die every day in North America from a variety of causes. 10 more random deaths are just snowflakes in the storm. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:54, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose Bad weather in North America. Not really that out of the ordinary for this time of year in the Northern Hemisphere. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 12:01, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
RD: Sir Mark Tully
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by The C of E (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.
Nominator's comments: British-Indian journalist and broadcaster. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 12:21, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Article is in good shape. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 15:50, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Article quality is sufficient. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:43, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Article is of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 03:34, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
RD: Lee Hae-chan
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Korea Herald
Credits:
- Nominated by ~2026-53428-7 (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.
Nominator's comments: Lee Hae-chan was known for his role as Prime Minister of South Korea between 2004 and 2006 during the tenure of President Roh Moo-hyun and as the leader of the Democratic Party of Korea from 2018 to 2020. Recently, before his death, he was served as the executive vice chair of the Peaceful Unification Advisory Council during the tenure of President Lee Jae Myung. Not sure whether the blurb is more suitable but i think it should be nominated as part of RD giving that his death was announced today at Ho Chi Minh City. ~2026-53428-7 (talk) 10:06, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality 3 sources are not enough to describe him and his 30 year politics career. Didgogns (talk) 14:11, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
January 24
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RD: William Foege
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:
- Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.
Nominator's comments: Credited with devising the strategy to eradicate smallpox. There are two CNs that need to be completed but otherwise appears ready to go. Masem (t) 23:03, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
Alex Honnold climb of Taipei 101
[edit]Blurb: American climber Alex Honnold (pictured) sets the record for the tallest urban free solo climb, climbing Taipei 101 in Taiwan. (Post)
News source(s): AP, BBC, CNN, Deadline, NYT
Credits:
- Nominated by Andise1 (talk · give credit)
Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: Major accomplishment by American climber Alex Honnold. Andise1 (talk) 03:39, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose, article needs a lot of work. --- RockinJack18 04:10, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose target It is far too short and I cannot see how it can be expanded. It would be far better if that was included in Honnold's article, and using that bio as the target. Masem (t) 04:11, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- I've swited the article target of ITNC. --Sinsyuan✍️TW→GA 05:55, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose good faith nom. Sensational entertainment news with no long term significance. -Ad Orientem (talk) 06:18, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Certainly an achievement in (free solo) climbing. The Honnold hook looks pretty good. This is a sports nom, not entertainment, and the record speaks for itself. Gotitbro (talk) 06:38, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose I disagree that this is sports, rather than just an entertainment event, which has limited significance. Natg 19 (talk) 06:59, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose, just a stunt. Hyperbolick (talk) 07:21, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Weak oppose - Perfectly good faith nomination, but I don't feel it's sufficiently significant. GenevieveDEon (talk) 07:59, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Climbing is certainly a sport and one of the better ones -- more exciting than a beer-belly sport like darts. This is big because it was streamed on Netflix and it seems to be getting plenty of mainstream coverage. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:39, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support It's a stunt, and a very good one. Ericoides (talk) 10:23, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support - Definitely for ITN.BabbaQ (talk) 11:43, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support This is significant event for Taipei 101 and Alex Honnold history. Since Taipei 101's opening, there are only TWO acts to climb on that skyscraper, and this time, Alex Honnold climbed on Taipei 101 without safety equipments. That was the first act to do so. Sinsyuan✍️TW→GA 13:14, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- What do you mean, 'significant event for... Alex Honnold history'? Of course it's a significant event in the history of the person who did it. I think it's a basic minimum of news significance that the event is significant for someone other than the prime actor in it. GenevieveDEon (talk) 14:44, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- For Alex Honnold, he wanted to climb up Taipei 101 13 years ago. However, at that time, the application was not approved by Taipei 101 due to security concern. As Janet Chia(賈永婕) became the chairwoman of Taipei 101, she and her team (under the corporation) approved Alex's application for Alex's past climbing records. For Taipei 101, there were only TWO acts to climb under permission. The first act was made by Alain Robert with security equipments in December 2004, and the second act was made by Alex Honnold without security equipments today. That was the first act to do so. Sinsyuan✍️TW→GA 14:54, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- What I'm saying is that for the significance of an event, while we don't need for it to be truly worldwide every time, we do need it to have a range of significance beyond 'significant in the history of one person' or 'significant in the history of one building'. GenevieveDEon (talk) 19:29, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- For Alex Honnold, he wanted to climb up Taipei 101 13 years ago. However, at that time, the application was not approved by Taipei 101 due to security concern. As Janet Chia(賈永婕) became the chairwoman of Taipei 101, she and her team (under the corporation) approved Alex's application for Alex's past climbing records. For Taipei 101, there were only TWO acts to climb under permission. The first act was made by Alain Robert with security equipments in December 2004, and the second act was made by Alex Honnold without security equipments today. That was the first act to do so. Sinsyuan✍️TW→GA 14:54, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- What do you mean, 'significant event for... Alex Honnold history'? Of course it's a significant event in the history of the person who did it. I think it's a basic minimum of news significance that the event is significant for someone other than the prime actor in it. GenevieveDEon (talk) 14:44, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Per Ericoides. I'm puzzled by the opposes on the basis that "this is entertainment, not sports". We post entertainment-related blurbs all the time. Something being a sport or not has very little relevance to WP:ITNCRIT. Here, there is widespread international coverage of the climb. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 15:46, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose This is a stunt that only reached the level of prominence it got because of the promotion by Netflix. Wikipedia shouldn't be encouraging such PR stunts. Khuft (talk) 17:30, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose per Khuft and others. Trivial. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:48, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Event has received wide spread news coverage and has international interest so meets WP: ITNSIGNIF. Whether it's a stunt or not is irrelevant. ITN can highlight more than just conflicts and politics. EvansHallBear (talk) 18:00, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support, climbing is a sport, and free solo is the most notable type. If we didn't post Honnold's free solo ascent of El Capitan, then we should have Kowal2701 (talk) 18:01, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. It's trivial at best and a fad at worst. That "record" criteria in the blurb is so specific that it doesn't made it feel significant. NotKringe (talk) 18:43, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Perhaps that's the fault of the blurb not the feat. Anyone can understand the significance of "the tallest building ever climbed without a rope". Maybe it should say that. And how is it a fad? Winthrop Young was doing this sort of thing well over a century ago. Ericoides (talk) 21:30, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Widely covered sporting achievement. Rolluik (talk) 19:24, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose This might be entertaining now, but its only long-term significance is to encourage more extreme and dangerous stunts in the future with predictable tragic ends in some cases. As Khuft said, we should not be encouraging this type of behavior. --The Vital One (talk) 22:45, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- It is not our job to encourage or discourage behavior. Per WP:ITNATA,
what is being assessed is not the moral or ethical "goodness" of the story, but its prominence in the news and significance.
EvansHallBear (talk) 03:10, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- It is not our job to encourage or discourage behavior. Per WP:ITNATA,
- Support As a world record, this was clearly a significant sporting achievement. Whether or not it's a "stunt" is irrelevant to ITN criteria. --Grnrchst (talk) 11:10, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support – Fun! The articles looks to be of appropriate quality (good work on all the improvements!). The article on the climb/documentary itself could be longer but it's fine. Taipei 101 being a GA is also very nice, though I think it can use an update for the two climbs. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 11:22, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
Killing of Alex Pretti
[edit]Blurb: United States Border Patrol agents shoot American citizen Alex Pretti to death amid an ongoing, controversial enforcement operation in the state of Minnesota. (Post)
News source(s): The Age (Melbourne) The Guardian (UK) CBC (Canada) CNN (US) New Zealand Herald (NZ) Der Spiegel (Germany) France 24 (Paris)
Nominator's comments: Shooting has been the subject of consistent, widesrpead, in-depth international coverage as part of the growth of I.C.E., the D.H.S., and the autocratization of the U.S. The aftermath has lead to intensified protests and the Trump administration's handling of the death is highly significant.
I would very much appreciate feedback on the quality of the suggested blurb, as this is my first ITN nom. It will probably need to be rephrased. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 01:04, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose first of all, welcome. Incidents of this kind are common in the United States, as has been said many times in this space (gun violence, police violence), so it would not be possible to include it unless it leads to major protests, general strikes of great significance, or notable political decisions. This is especially true given the inflammation and hype that occurs with any controversy generated during the Trump administration. That is why Gulitymamba's observation above is important: the reality of the facts is the only thing that matters, not what we want it to be. We are an encyclopaedia, not a news portal, not Twitter. _-_Alsor (talk) 01:30, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Are you unaware of the 2026 Minnesota general strike, ongoing protests, and Democrats withholding needed votes to fund DHS as a direct result of this shooting? – Muboshgu (talk) 01:35, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Protests occur all over the world, all the time. Protests, per se, are not ITN-worthy. No matter how much they occur in the United States. _-_Alsor (talk) 01:38, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Well, the nomination is not about the protests, but something that spawned protests, as you said would be needed for posting. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:39, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- As a criterion for assessing whether Pretti's murder is ITN-worthy: notorious protests, notorious politicial changes. _-_Alsor (talk) 01:42, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- "Protests occur all over the world, all the time." yes and the protests in Iran are posted right now. --Guiltymamba (talk) 02:19, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- completely different circumstances. _-_Alsor (talk) 11:39, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Well, the nomination is not about the protests, but something that spawned protests, as you said would be needed for posting. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:39, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Protests occur all over the world, all the time. Protests, per se, are not ITN-worthy. No matter how much they occur in the United States. _-_Alsor (talk) 01:38, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- This event, along with Renee Good (which you refused to blurb to the same reasons) is actually quite unprecedented and uncommon in the US. In the past police brutality of this type has always been recognized as notable history, such as George Floyd and Kent State. State violence in the US is actually very uncommon and the idea that american police (which ICE is not) regularly kill people is mostly made up by popular media. Saying that it shouldn't be blurbed because it is "common in the US" is the reasoning that ITN has used in the past not to blurb minor mass shootings and it is a fallacy to apply it here even if it was true. ITN regularly blurbs violent events in the US, including killings of individuals, when they are notable. Just because you believe it common in the US does mean it shouldnt be blurbed. This was incredibly violent, socially, politically, and legally notable. The initial protests that came from Renee good are still ongoing in Minnesota and ITN has blurbed regional protests before, so I do not see how it is relevant. You're right that being a protest does not make it inherently notable but that doesn't make it not notable either.
- I don't want to respond to US political topics on my main account so I'm using an IP. ~2026-52780-6 (talk) 04:25, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Are you unaware of the 2026 Minnesota general strike, ongoing protests, and Democrats withholding needed votes to fund DHS as a direct result of this shooting? – Muboshgu (talk) 01:35, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose this one incident. The ongoing item would be better --Guiltymamba (talk) 02:19, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose - This by itself is not ITN worthy. This is notable because it's the second ICE shooting during their operations in Minneapolis, which can just be put in ongoing. Personisinsterest (talk) 02:21, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose NTRUMP This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 02:34, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose per above Elisecars727 (talk)☺ 02:37, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose in favor of an ongoing item as described below. The Kip (contribs) 02:51, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose We have solid precedent against posting law enforcement killings and mass shootings in the US, unless especially important (as seen in the last nom for Renee Good). This is clearly not the case here, the protests as of now are also non-notable. Gotitbro (talk) 05:41, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose, routine ICE killing of a protest-adjacent person. Hyperbolick (talk) 07:24, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- To be correct, this time it is the United States Border Patrol. Gotitbro (talk) 07:32, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose Very localized American story. Americans on twitter/reddit and elsewhere are reacting strongly to this news, which distorts what is "important" news. USA is not the world, and small incidents are not worldwide news. Harizotoh9 (talk) 07:55, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support The killing is getting special attention now on constitutional grounds since Essayli's inflammatory statement which has brought out campaigners like the NRA. And the Obamas have issued a wake-up call. The topic is international news and the article was the top read by a good margin yesterday, pushing Alex Honnold into second place. For example, the BBC's World news section currently leads with several stories about it and a live stream of news updates. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:28, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Now, this is covered by ongoing. Time to close it again. _-_Alsor (talk) 11:41, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
(Posted) Ongoing: United States deportation efforts
[edit]Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Nominator's comments: A constant in the news for more than a year; major city in disorder; third fatal shooting in less than a month. -FelineHerder (talk) 18:23, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Maybe The events in Minneapolis seem quite notable and ongoing but I'm not sure the suggested article of Deportation in the second Trump administration is the best target. How about Operation Metro Surge? Andrew🐉(talk) 18:42, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support - Constantly in world news. JaxsonR (talk) 19:18, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose internal drama, pornography in the media because it involves the actions of a controversial president. The latest event is just one more in a country accustomed to gun and police violence. We are not Twitter, we are not the New York Times. _-_Alsor (talk) 19:43, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- This is different than the gun and police violence of the past. These are actual government agents, occupying a city with a greater strength than the local police department, sweeping neighborhoods, and shooting and arresting citizens. Personisinsterest (talk) 23:46, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment - this seems to narrow to me. The collapse of the rule of law, and rise of racism and autocracy in that nation is the bigger, well reported, issue. This is just a symptom. Need a wider target, and someone who can write the blurb better than I. A potential target is Timeline of the Donald Trump presidencies and perhaps better the regularly updated Timeline of the second Trump presidency (2026 Q1). Nfitz (talk) 20:19, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Sounds like you're looking for Democratic backsliding in the United States. EvansHallBear (talk) 22:20, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Perhaps - though it isn't a great ongoing target. Nfitz (talk) 23:36, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Sounds like you're looking for Democratic backsliding in the United States. EvansHallBear (talk) 22:20, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose far too broad of a nomination, per others, and, in my opinion, this isn't something Ongoing is useful for in the same way we don't have the Holocene extinction on there, whether or not it's important (which I believe it is). I feel this way about any nomination of the Trump presidency, unless we see large-scale protests or some sort of large-scale crackdown on dissent which hasn't manifested (significantly larger than No Kings etc). Departure– (talk) 20:26, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- How about Operation Metro Surge instead? The media focus is on Minnesota and the dramatic shootings and protests this month are clustered there. Bremps... 20:39, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support something related to recent and ongoing events in Minnesota, maybe not Deportation in the second Trump administration, but maybe a blurb for Killing of Alex Pretti or an ongoing nomination for Renée Good protests (which will probably be renamed to not just be about Renée Good after this) or the 2026 Minnesota general strike. Vanilla Wizard 💙 21:29, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose the lead of the target article says "involving the detention, confinement, and expulsion of hundreds of thousands of immigrants". The Trump administration is deporting illegal immigrants, and persons whose lawful status expired either because of a felony crime or because their phony asylum claim was denied. If the target article can't make that distinction, it doesn't belong on the front page. --Guiltymamba (talk) 21:58, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Please read WP:NOTFORUM. GenevieveDEon (talk) 08:04, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support a different ongoing such as Operation Metro Surge (protests), or, God forbid, a blurb for insurrection act being invoked. Omnifalcon (talk) 22:02, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- agree with others above Support a different ongoing, Operation Metro Surge or Renee Good protests TheLoyalOrder (talk) 22:14, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Article is high quality, topic has substantial ongoing coverage in the news worldwide. EvansHallBear (talk) 22:25, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- I also support Operation Metro Surge if we want to keep the scope more narrow. EvansHallBear (talk) 22:45, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support, constantly in the news, big conflict. But as said above, the target article should be Operation Metro Surge. It is well written and covers both ICE killings in Minneapolis and the protests.
- Personisinsterest (talk) 22:32, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support - It just keeps happening and it is making international news constantly. Operation Metro Surge would be a good target. PackMecEng (talk) 22:56, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose Too vague, no obvious trigger event. No obvious end-point. Harizotoh9 (talk) 23:07, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support putting Operation Metro Surge in ongoing, preferably with a more informative pipe such as "U.S. immigration enforcement operations in Minneapolis", and/or combined blurb for the killings of Renée Good and Alex Pretti. Davey2116 (talk) 00:38, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- It makes no sense to put an item from the local operation in Ongoing when there is a federal-level operation that can be debated, nor can items in Ongoing be combined with items that are not ongoing events, nor can Renée's death be included because it is stale. _-_Alsor (talk) 01:22, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Operation Metro Surge; the other article is too broad. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 01:00, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support linking Operation Metro Surge as a more narrow focus on what’s currently in the news, but I’d rather a different pipe descriptor (ex. those mentioned by Davey above) as OMS is both not really a commonly-known name; and also (maybe SOAPy on my part but I’m pissed off) carrying water for Trump’s propaganda efforts - an official name implies legitimacy. The Kip (contribs) 02:53, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support in theory don't know the exact correct phrasing, but I'd be inclined to support something like: operation[don't know which article exactly] (protests), but I can't think of an exact name right now. 1brianm7 (talk) 03:35, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support with a preference to Operation Metro Surge. The article is frequently updated and there is ongoing, widespread, in-depth international coverage of the current crisis in Minneapolis. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 03:56, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Weak support I generally think we should try to stay too far out of politics when there is not massive injuries or death involved (like the Iran ones) but I think its hard to ignore this as being ongoing. I would agree the Operation article is the better to feature now, as the operations in other cities has yet to reach this type of critical mass. Masem (t) 04:09, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- This isn't about getting into or staying out of politics, it's about reporting on something which is itself deeply political. GenevieveDEon (talk) 08:04, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Which is an area that WP should not be covering heavily because much of the broader aspects are short-term opinions and commentary from news sources, which is what frequently leads to NPOV problems in general (not necessarily in this case). We're supposed to be writing for the long-term view and trying to capture the commentary at the time of the event from those without direct involvement in it while maintaining NPOV and DUE concerns has always been a problem moreso recently with how much detail editors try to include. We of course should document significant events objectively but when the political angles come up that's where should hold back and avoid going deeply political until we know how we can write the larger picture, which usually takes years to figure out. Masem (t) 13:32, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- This isn't about getting into or staying out of politics, it's about reporting on something which is itself deeply political. GenevieveDEon (talk) 08:04, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support link to 'Operation' with different title per Davey, The Kip, and other. This is very much in the news, and I think this choice of target strikes the balance between too narrow (the individual shootings and specific protests in response) and too broad (US immigration enforcement, democratic backsliding). GenevieveDEon (talk) 08:04, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Weak support This is very much in the news and receiving daily updates, but it may be better to use a different title. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:38, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose, ongoing is for events that would otherwise deserve multiple blurbs. There's not been a single blurb from this, just not significant enough. Police brutality in the US is hardly novel Kowal2701 (talk) 18:07, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment @Admins willing to post ITN: There is a 3:1 ratio in favour of posting to ongoing. However, the assessing admin will need to decide which target article and which exact wording to use based on the above discussion. As such, I am marking decision needed. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 05:00, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Looking into it. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 06:34, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- There seems to be a clear consensus for Operation Metro Surge as the posting target. There is also some level of support for protests being included as a parenthetical, as well as of support for a more descriptive piped title, with no explicit opposition to either specifically. I am going to implement both, although the discussion can remain open, notably to refine the exact wording. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 06:40, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Looking into it. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 06:34, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
Posted with the piped title suggested by @Davey2116. While more informative, this piped title is quite long, and I would personally be happier with a shorter title if there is consensus to do so. Would ICE operations in Minneapolis be understandable enough for non-Americans unfamiliar with the situation? Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 06:46, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
Chinese purge
[edit]Blurb: Chinese general Zhang Youxia is suspended as Xi's purge continues. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Zhang Youxia, the vice chairman of China's Central Military Commission, is suspended from his position.
News source(s): CNN, France24, Intelligence Online, South China Morning Post, Straits Times, Times of India, NYT,
Credits:
- Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Toadboy123 (talk · give credit), 0x0a (talk · give credit) and The Account 2 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Nominator's comments: We post little news from China but there seems to be a significant political struggle for succession and Xi's purge is now compared with the Cultural Revolution and Stalin's purges. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:19, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment The purge is an extremely slow moving story, so we would need better justification as to why Youxia's removal is a reason to highlight it now. I recognize he's listed as one of the top military figures in China, but that doesnt' seem enough to make now a reason to cover it. Masem (t) 13:01, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- We should cover it because it's in the news, of course. The fact that it has been running for some time means that we have quite a substantial article now -- the article has about 80 sources and it is graded as vital. But ITN doesn't seem to have ever posted anything about it and, now it has reached the top echelons, it seems a good time to let people know what's going on. This also fits well with the general zeitgeist about China's growing strength, threats to Taiwan, autocratic example and so forth. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:16, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Formally Oppose, as according to this BBC article he is only under investigation but has not been removed from his position. As well as the issues on NPOV terminology brought up below. Masem (t) 04:46, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- You've got it backwards. Such "investigations" only go one way and the BBC report makes it clear that he's been removed,
With the probe into Zhang and Liu, the CMC is now down from the original seven members to just two: Xi, who is the chairman, and Zhang Shengmin, who is responsible for the military's disciplinary affairs.
My impression is that guilt has already been established and that the investigation stage is more about grilling him intensively and then determining the level of punishment. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:59, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- You've got it backwards. Such "investigations" only go one way and the BBC report makes it clear that he's been removed,
- Comment Happy to post more news from China in general but piping a link to Anti-corruption campaign under Xi Jinping as "Xi's purge" doesn't seem appropriate. AusLondonder (talk) 13:23, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose One general being removed is not a story, nor is it an especially noteworthy development in a 'purge' that, per the linked article, has been ongoing for over a decade and a half. BSMRD (talk) 14:15, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Zhang is the second highest ranking military person in China as the first vice president of the CMC, behind only Xi in his role as chairman. Aydoh8[what have I done now?] 09:47, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Strong oppose per BSMRD. Even framing this confidently as a "purge" when that term scarcely appears in the article seems dishonest. Departure– (talk) 15:34, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- See the analysis section for an extensive discussion of whether it is a purge or some other form of internal conflict. The word certainly appears in current reporting such as Xi’s Purge of China’s Military Brings Its Top General Down or 'Unprecedented purge': China's No. 1 general under investigation. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:08, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Looking at that section it is subject to much dispute as to whether this is "purge" or genuine anti-corruption efforts. The framing proposed for the blurb is a total violation of NPOV. AusLondonder (talk) 16:33, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- The ordinary meaning of "purge" in this context is "An act of removing objectionable, hostile, or undesirable elements. In later use: esp. the expulsion from an organization, political party, army, etc., of people regarded as undesirable." (OED) Whether that's because of corruption or for other factional reasons, the word works for me either way. But if you would prefer some other euphemism, please feel free to suggest an alternative. The major point is that it's a big deal because this is the top general being removed and, according to the article, over two million other officials have been been prosecuted previously. Two million! How many do we need before we dare to say something? Andrew🐉(talk) 17:37, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Looking at that section it is subject to much dispute as to whether this is "purge" or genuine anti-corruption efforts. The framing proposed for the blurb is a total violation of NPOV. AusLondonder (talk) 16:33, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- See the analysis section for an extensive discussion of whether it is a purge or some other form of internal conflict. The word certainly appears in current reporting such as Xi’s Purge of China’s Military Brings Its Top General Down or 'Unprecedented purge': China's No. 1 general under investigation. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:08, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Altblurd? Chinese general Zhang Youxia is suspended by Xi Jingping JaxsonR (talk) 19:21, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose per BSMRD. _-_Alsor (talk) 19:44, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment ‘Purge’ seems accurate and is the term being used by RS. The secondary link to an earlier purge from 2012 doesn’t seem quite right, though. This event is part of a newer purge – starting in either 2023 or last autumn (sources differ). At least 14 generals arrested since October’s plenary session, with more reported as ‘missing.’ Zhang’s ‘suspension’ (must we use the CCP’s euphemism?) is notable, but its significance is not yet clear. And may not be clear until RS report on the outcome of 2027’s CCP National Congress or an invasion of Taiwan. Dr Fell (talk) 20:06, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- The article Anti-corruption campaign under Xi Jinping seems to be the only one and has a section Removal of CMC Members which starts in 2025. That needs some expansion though.
- There are some navigational templates which are divided into three periods starting in 2013, 2017 and 2022.
- {{CPCCorruption2013}}
- {{CPCCorruption2017}}
- {{CCPCorruption2022}}
- They link to a huge number of articles but they mostly seem too detailed for us.
- More generally, it's interesting to find that there are so many articles about China and its policies. ITN is neglecting that major part of the world so here's a chance to give readers a peek.
- Andrew🐉(talk) 21:04, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Those templates are likely from the zhwiki (translated). Hence why they feel somewhat disconnected to the article. Gotitbro (talk) 06:09, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Calling it a "purge" is a POV branding of the event that we should avoid. Harizotoh9 (talk) 22:14, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Calling it a purge is reality.Basetornado (talk) 01:15, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment I don't see whether this is described in the relevant articles, but for some more information, per FT:[1]
The removal of Zhang and Liu reduces the CMC to its smallest size in history, leaving as its only members Xi, who heads the body, and Zhang Shengmin..."This is the most stunning development in Chinese politics since the early days of Xi’s rise to power when he purged the General Officer Corps of those he feared would oppose him," said Dennis Wilder, a former head of China analysis at the CIA.
- Placeholderer (talk) 01:46, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Alternative blurb, per that article, could be
Chinese general Zhang Youxia is suspended from China's Central Military Commission, leaving Xi Jinping in sole operational control of the People's Liberation Army
Placeholderer (talk) 01:53, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Alternative blurb, per that article, could be
- Oppose Low significance. In addition, as stated above, the blurb possibly breaks neutrality guidelines and if this is to be posted an altblurb is definitely required. --SpectralIon 04:05, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Youxia was considered the second most powerful person in CCP hierarchy. Having survived all previous anti-corruption "campaigns" (read purges) which targetted most of his colleagues, he finally bites the dust. This is very significant for China, and we should focus on the person rather than the nebulously large anti-corruption campaign. "Purge" can also simply be removed from mention for NPOV. Gotitbro (talk) 05:55, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support posting the story, but the use of "purge" in a blurb appears to be a NPOV violation. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 18:39, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose According to WSJ ([2]), he is being accused of leaking info to the US. Assuming WSJ is accurate, "spy gets caught" is not ITN worthy. Jumpytoo Talk 19:45, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Seems an unlikely allegation to me. In the Soviet purges, the people who were given show trials were commonly tortured to induce such outlandish confessions. See the Moscow trials for the unpleasant details. Anyway, the more bizarre the allegations, the more notable the matter becomes. Andrew🐉(talk) 20:01, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Looking around, the FT has a different account including a statement that he had “severely trampled on and damaged the chairman responsibility system”, "suggesting that ensuring the powers of the Chinese leader is behind a probe of Zhang Youxia announced on Saturday, rather than just charges of corruption".
- The FT goes on to provide a variety of analyses from various experts on the history of these purges and factional politics. This level of detailed expert coverage further demonstrates the notability of the matter.
- Andrew🐉(talk) 20:37, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose wildly inappropriate and non-neutral blurb, and not really the kind of significant news that we really need to post. Parabolist (talk) 00:12, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Post, neutral on wording Enormous news for Chinese politics. One of the most dramatic moves in Xi's consolidation of power, second only to his abolition of term limits. WaPo describes him as combining the power of SecDef, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and national security adviser- combine that with the shock of such a major removal, possible selling of nuclear secrets, and implications for a potential invasion of Taiwan. Bremps... 03:10, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support altblurb Widely reported in news around the world and significant in the context of tensions with Taiwan. The notability of the key players is clear: Zhang Youxi is the highest-ranked military official in Xi Jinping's inner circle as the leader of China's supreme military leadership body (the Central Military Commission aka CMC), and his suspension and arrest are consequential in demonstrating Xi's centralisation of power in the CCP around himself alone. Where historically the removal of top officials perceived to threaten the leader was often swept under the rug and Chinese newspapers heavily censored any discussion about their fate (see the Lin Biao incident in 1971), this event is unusually public and it is no secret that Zhang Youxia's fall from power has become a major news story both within China and worldwide. Oppius Brutus 03:57, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose or Support altburb: the original blurb is incredibly NPOV and there's a lack of reliable information in sources Wikipedia considers reliable. If we do decide to include it the altblurb is reasonable, I think. Smallangryplanet (talk) 11:59, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Edith M. Flanigen
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:
- Nominated by Mlb96 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.
Nominator's comments: American chemist. Died on January 6, death was announced on January 24. Mlb96 (talk) 03:55, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Per the nominator, the death was announced today meaning this nomination isn't stale. The article is sourced enough and can be posted on RD. CastleFort1 (talk) 04:40, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support per CastleFort1. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 15:51, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment it seems like it was announced on January 11, given how the article was updated with a source on that date. Though, there might be some rule that allows this to be posted. Onegreatjoke (talk) 03:03, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Where is this Jan. 11th announcement? Maybe too old for RD. --PFHLai (talk) 03:32, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Jkaharper updated the article on Jan 11 using this source https://www.invent.org/inductees/edith-flanigen Onegreatjoke (talk) 04:56, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Where is this Jan. 11th announcement? Maybe too old for RD. --PFHLai (talk) 03:32, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 03:29, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
January 23
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(Posted) Rumen Radev resigns and Iliana Iotova sworn in
[edit]Blurb: Iliana Iotova becomes the first female President of Bulgaria following the resignation of Rumen Radev. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Iliana Iotova becomes the first female President of Bulgaria following the resignation of Rumen Radev.
Alternative blurb II: Iliana Iotova becomes the first female President of Bulgaria.
Alternative blurb III: Iliana Iotova becomes Bulgaria’s first female President.
News source(s): БTA
Credits:
- Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)
- Updated by BabbaQ (talk · give credit) and Alsor97 (talk · give credit)
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
ArionStar (talk) 05:03, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
Oppose on quality and oppose proposed blurb. Firstly the Iliana Iotova article is very short and not really up to the standard expected for a head of state; it's missing a lot of details, such as political beliefs, and the political and television career is very brief and has barely any information of any substance. The Rumen Radev article is very comprehensive, but the sub-headings and structure of the article is a bit confusing; foreign policy positions are added into his political career section, making the article very difficult to follow and unchronological. But the main quality oppose is thatthe blurb is slightly misleading; Iliana Iotova was not elected, she is just caretaker president until the next election. This will be yet another election and part of the ongoing political crisis, so the target article (or at least one of the target articles) should really be 2021–present Bulgarian political crisis; that article need updating as well. Should also link 2026 Bulgarian parliamentary election article given this change is related to this but however that article isn't up to scratch at all either, especially given how many elections there have been over the last few years and how many governments have fallen, there should be a much more comprehensive background at least in what will be the 8th election in 5 years. The story is that the Zhelyazkov Government is about to fall (or has de facto fallen in a way); but that article is not very detailed either. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:19, 24 January 2026 (UTC)- I have made minor improvements to both nominated articles since my comment. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:42, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Change to support as article quality concerns fixed and major positive overhaul of the Iotova article. Abcmaxx (talk) 22:38, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
:Oppose on quality Iotova article says practically nothing about her role as Vicepresident of Bulgaria...In any case, it does not appear that she is caretaker president, but rather with all her constitutional functions. _-_Alsor (talk) 12:14, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- A caretaker president always has the same constitutional functions surely regardless? She is a caretaker because she is only filling the role until the election when a new president will be elected. Abcmaxx (talk) 21:30, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- In Bulgaria, a president appointed to complete a term of office is not a caretaker because they do not have limited powers, since the Constitution does not provide for interim office, but rather succession. Iotova is president with all the constitutional prerogatives attributed to the presidency of the republic. _-_Alsor (talk) 22:42, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- A caretaker president always has the same constitutional functions surely regardless? She is a caretaker because she is only filling the role until the election when a new president will be elected. Abcmaxx (talk) 21:30, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose But only a part of the larger crisis of which the election is going to be a much more significant say. Edit: First female president is notable but the article then simply isn't upto par either. Gotitbro (talk) 05:24, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support on notability, oppose on quality While Bulgaria changing its head of state and also getting its first female president is notable, there are still quality issues per the reasons stated by Abcmaxx. Expand the vice-presidency section in Iotova's article while also clarifying the sub-headings/structure in Radev's article. Once done, I could change to a full support. CastleFort1 (talk) 05:31, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Change to full support, altblurb 1 The vice-presidency section in Iotova's section has been expanded, and Radev's article has been debolded. With the quality of Iotova's article now sufficient, the blurb may be posted on ITN. CastleFort1 (talk) 18:51, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- I have made several alternative Blurbs only with Iotova. Her article is good enough for mention. Pinging CastleFort1 (talk · contribs). BabbaQ (talk) 12:35, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support I have also been working on her article, which should be the main article, and I think it is ready to be posted. BTW, the President of Bulgaria is a ceremonial, non-executive figure, so it is not ITNR. _-_Alsor (talk) 18:44, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Abcmaxx @CastleFort1 can you please check the quality of Iotova's article? Thanks. _-_Alsor (talk) 18:46, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Alsor97: Article quality much better, but this is ITN/R as the postion is only partially ceremonial; as with many other countries in the area and similar history, Bulgaria is a semi-presidential republic, and the president has many executive powers, mainly as part of checks and balances of the PM and government; see Politics of Bulgaria#Executive branch Abcmaxx (talk) 22:32, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Abcmaxx Um, I don't think so. The Constitution (you can read it here in English) establishes the country as a parliamentary republic, so executive power resides exclusively with the Prime Minister, not shared. In fact, Article 98 on the President sets out the functions that are more natural to a ceremonial presidency, rather than those of a presidential or semi-presidential system such as France's. It functions constitutionally like Italy or Germany, not like France or Romania. _-_Alsor (talk) 22:57, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Alsor97: Article quality much better, but this is ITN/R as the postion is only partially ceremonial; as with many other countries in the area and similar history, Bulgaria is a semi-presidential republic, and the president has many executive powers, mainly as part of checks and balances of the PM and government; see Politics of Bulgaria#Executive branch Abcmaxx (talk) 22:32, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Abcmaxx @CastleFort1 can you please check the quality of Iotova's article? Thanks. _-_Alsor (talk) 18:46, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- I don't know anything about this, but our article on President of Bulgaria says
In Bulgaria, the president's role is primarily as a symbolic figure, with the main function being to be the 'arbitrator' of disputes between Bulgaria's different institutions. They are not considered head of government or part of the nation's executive power.
Natg 19 (talk) 03:12, 26 January 2026 (UTC)- @Alsor97 and Natg 19: and the next bit? President of Bulgaria has the power to any veto legislation, is head of the armed forces, and in certain situations can even nominate PM's. In the absence of a prime minister, presidents are in charge of appointing an interim administration, giving them considerable influence over the government during such periods and Iotova is such a situation. Also the "primarily symbolic" statement completely unreferenced and I removed it from the lead as it didn't match with the executive powers section. For example, Poland has a near identical set up, if you want to see how much political power a president wields just look up how much Karol Nawrocki can derail Donald Tusk government's legislation. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:09, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Abcmaxx I still disagree. The prerogatives you describe are also held by presidents of purely parliamentary republics such as Italy and Georgia, and, except for the right of veto, parliamentary monarchies such as Spain, so they do not in themselves indicate a semi-presidential system. This system requires a dual executive power (as in France), which is not the case in Bulgaria. It is important to note that the Bulgarian government is accountable to the National Assembly, which appoints it and exercises control, and is not politically accountable to the President.
- Comparing it to Poland's system with its power of veto can lead to confusion, since, as it is a pure semi-presidential system, the Polish president has a strong veto (it requires a larger majority in parliament to overturn the veto than the law required to be passed, a minimum quorum of the majority of deputies present), whereas in Bulgaria, an absolute majority is required and no quorum is required, so it can be easily overturned. The strength of the veto does allow for a significant institutional difference between these two systems.
- In fact, reliable sources define the presidency of the republic as a ‘ceremonial’ figure: Reuters Associated Press _-_Alsor (talk) 11:22, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Alsor97 and Natg 19: and the next bit? President of Bulgaria has the power to any veto legislation, is head of the armed forces, and in certain situations can even nominate PM's. In the absence of a prime minister, presidents are in charge of appointing an interim administration, giving them considerable influence over the government during such periods and Iotova is such a situation. Also the "primarily symbolic" statement completely unreferenced and I removed it from the lead as it didn't match with the executive powers section. For example, Poland has a near identical set up, if you want to see how much political power a president wields just look up how much Karol Nawrocki can derail Donald Tusk government's legislation. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:09, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- I don't know anything about this, but our article on President of Bulgaria says
Support Regardless of the ITNR debate, her being the first female pushes it over in any event. I also think the article has been improved to address the previous concerns. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 01:33, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
Posted given the explicit supports on notability grounds regardless of ITNR. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 07:36, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
(Stale) RD: Pedro A. Sanchez
[edit]The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:
- Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Monkeysoap (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.
- First obituary was published on the 14th, so stale. Stephen 04:36, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Here's one from Jan 13.[3]—Bagumba (talk) 07:39, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: John Brodie
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Wikidude10000 (talk · give credit) and Bagumba (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.
Nominator's comments: Needs a bit more work. Natg 19 (talk) 01:47, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Sufficient breadth and sourcing.—Bagumba (talk) 01:02, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Article is well sourced and of sufficient quality for posting. CastleFort1 (talk) 04:37, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 10:42, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
USA leaves WHO
[edit]Blurb: Notice of the US withdrawal from the World Health Organization (WHO) takes effect, making the US the first member state to leave the body. (Post)
Alternative blurb: The United States leaves the World Health Organization, marking the first time a member state has left the international body.
News source(s): Al Jazeera, BBC, CNN, DW, NYT, Reuters, Sky, Stat, Straits Times, Time, WHO
Credits:
- Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
- Updated by HistorianL (talk · give credit) and Ritwik Deuba (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Nominator's comments: There's a bureaucratic battle about some unpaid debts but the damage seems done now. There was also a separate announcement about the US withdrawing from 66 other international bodies but the details of those cases seem less clear. Andrew🐉(talk) 23:05, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose – US initiated its withdrawal a year ago, and hasn't cooperated since. This just marks the formal withdrawal. Note that the US has not paid its dues for the past two years. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 00:17, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose - stale - was announced by USA a year or so ago. Nfitz (talk) 07:25, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- I nominated the start of the process last year along with a stack of other executive orders. Nothing was posted. Nice4What nominated the start of previous attempt to withdraw in 2020 and that wasn't posted either. So, ITN hasn't managed to post anything about this yet and the process has never reached this point before for any country and so it's a first. It's in the news and having an impact. Now is the time. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:10, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- The first one was rejected but noted that individual orders may be worthy of relisting. The second one wasn't posted on the basis that it was likely not to happen because it was not long before the upcoming election where the incumbent was likely to lose. It isn't even getting much carriage - I see no mention on the current BBC front page in North America. Nfitz (talk) 20:08, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- The reasons that ITN kicked the can down the road don't seem important. The point is that nothing has been posted yet and here it is in the news again. It's not stale because we have a fresh event which is international news now. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:41, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- The first one was rejected but noted that individual orders may be worthy of relisting. The second one wasn't posted on the basis that it was likely not to happen because it was not long before the upcoming election where the incumbent was likely to lose. It isn't even getting much carriage - I see no mention on the current BBC front page in North America. Nfitz (talk) 20:08, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- I nominated the start of the process last year along with a stack of other executive orders. Nothing was posted. Nice4What nominated the start of previous attempt to withdraw in 2020 and that wasn't posted either. So, ITN hasn't managed to post anything about this yet and the process has never reached this point before for any country and so it's a first. It's in the news and having an impact. Now is the time. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:10, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support The formal withdrawal is now, so it has become fact. As per User:Andrew Davidson's comments, when the previous nominations were submitted, some of the oppose votes were on the basis it has not happened yet, so now that is has happened it's stale? It has to be one or the other. The same issue has come up with the EU-Mercosur deal as well, posting gets delayed and then its considered stale or a done deal, which means its never posted. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:26, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- This is false, @Abcmaxx. That it hadn't happened yet was not the basis for either previous nominations being closed. The basis for the first (years ago) was that it was just before the election, and unlikely to happen (and it didn't). The basis for the second closure was that it was bunched with lots of other stuff, which clearly stated that relisting separately was an option. Can you please strike the erroneous claims? Nfitz (talk) 20:12, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Clarified that some of the oppose votes were on that basis. My main argument still stands though. Abcmaxx (talk) 21:27, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support on notability This is the formal withdrawal, and the start of the process was not posted. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 10:43, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support We should post either the notice of withdrawal or the actual withdrawal which is now. It is in the news now. I didn't know that this is the first state to withdraw, that is interesting. Rolluik (talk) 10:59, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment I would also recommend adding California's own joining of WHO outbreak response network as a result [4]. Masem (t) 12:58, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support not stale as it's actually happening now- and we didn't post Trump's announcement of this last year, because Trump announces many things, that doesn't guarantee they happen. This however is now happening and meets WP:ITNSIGNIF. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:56, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment This can also have a DYK hook.GiftedIceCream 21:37, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- No, it can't. The target article is World Health Organization and that was created 25 years ago. DYK is for new articles, you see. The WHO is in the news and that's this department. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:50, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Man, people tnink DYK is some random trivia section.... and people think ITN is about news articles. Howard the Duck (talk) 22:18, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Howard the Duck I assumed that the above blurb has its own article, so its eligible for DYK. GiftedIceCream 21:36, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Man, people tnink DYK is some random trivia section.... and people think ITN is about news articles. Howard the Duck (talk) 22:18, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- No, it can't. The target article is World Health Organization and that was created 25 years ago. DYK is for new articles, you see. The WHO is in the news and that's this department. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:50, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support, not stale This is not stale because the fresh event is the US formally withdrawing from the WHO. While there are two CN tags in the WHO article, the amount dwarfs the size and the quality of other sections within the article. CastleFort1 (talk) 04:36, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment Leaning towards support here as this is the first time a country has withdrawn from the WHO. But as the nom notes, the US has withdrawn from a huge cache of UN orgs; clearly the Trump admin is opposed to the current UN and international system, whether we should specifically highlight this is then also debatable. Clear no for the California actions, in no way as significant or important. Gotitbro (talk) 05:08, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Alt blurb a notable action by the Trump admin. Natg 19 (talk) 06:57, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support alt Akin to an election taking place, then the results being posted. These are the results. They announced they'd leave a year ago and it took a year for it to become formalized. Harizotoh9 (talk) 07:39, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Alt on notability, per Joseph and others above, pending the CN tags being addressed. In addition, in full transparency, I've revised the alt very slightly for minor grammar changes. Oddly, the old blurb said "the US" (sic) instead of "the United States", and also called it the "World Health Organisation" (sic) instead of the "World Health Organization". FlipandFlopped ㋡ 01:37, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
(Posted) Vietnamese General Secretary re-elected
[edit]Blurb: Vietnam's Communist Party Congress re-elects Tô Lâm (pictured) as General Secretary, the most powerful position in the one-party state. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Tô Lâm (pictured) is re-elected General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam
Credits:
- Nominated by Greenknight dv (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Tống Thành Hưng (talk · give credit)
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: This position is the de facto most powerful post in the country of 102+ million people, with a five-year term. Greenknight dv (talk) 22:56, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- I believe this would be ITN/R, support as articles look good. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 00:18, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- To Lam's article has a huge orange banner tag and it has been there for years. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:23, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- It's an {{Expand language}} template. I don't see that as a concern. If it were a maintenance template then it'd been an issue. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 16:35, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- It's an orange tag which is a strict no-no at ITN. It's that way because it's a {{multiple issues}}. That's erroneous because it's left over from when there was a {{copy edit}} template too. This is blatant sloppiness not quality. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:21, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Fixed- so it's now using the blue tag for expand language (which doesn't prohibit posting) rather than the out of date multiple issues tag- which is incorrect as there are not multiple issues listed. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:59, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- It's an orange tag which is a strict no-no at ITN. It's that way because it's a {{multiple issues}}. That's erroneous because it's left over from when there was a {{copy edit}} template too. This is blatant sloppiness not quality. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:21, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- It's an {{Expand language}} template. I don't see that as a concern. If it were a maintenance template then it'd been an issue. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 16:35, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support party congresses are major events comparable to election cycles in democracies in terms of events. Even if they're not currently ITN/R they ought to be This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:44, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment To Lam's article has several unsourced statements. The congress article looks to be in great shape. I'd support this as it technically an election in communist systems (WP:ITNELECTIONS should clarify these congress elections though). Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 16:35, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Per nominator. ArionStar (talk) 16:57, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Orange tag in To Lam's article appears to be resolved. No additional issues. CastleFort1 (talk) 04:31, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Much like Xi Jinping's appointment we posted. Gotitbro (talk) 09:38, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Per all above. Article issues resolved. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 20:00, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support blurb but oppose altblurb as it infers that this was a standard democratic election. Abcmaxx (talk) 22:25, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
Posted original blurb. Open to suggestions in wording changes if "one-party state" might seem undue/pejorative, although I believe it is necessary for context. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 07:36, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Chaotic Enby: It seems the main page, 14th National Congress of the Communist Party of Vietnam, should be bolded, not Tô Lâm, which only has a one-sentence mention. —Bagumba (talk) 08:12, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Fixing, thanks. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 09:03, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- I was wondering why we included the "one-party state" line, it doesn't seem to be standard verbiage in these kinds of items and it's clear that the party congress re-elected him, what additional context does it provide? I would propose "Vietnam's Communist Party Congress re-elects Tô Lâm (pictured) as General Secretary", but I'm not super familiar with ITN practices so apologies if this is off-base etc. Smallangryplanet (talk) 11:40, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- I figured the added context was the relevance of the event (as it is functionally a change in country leadership rather than "just" party leadership), but I'd be happy if we find an alternate way to convey it. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 11:43, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- It's worth noting that it's not a change in leadership (he took over after Nguyễn Phú Trọng's death in 2024) but a re-election, so how about "Tô Lâm is re-elected as General Secretary (the highest political authority of Vietnam) by the 14th Communist Party Congress." Smallangryplanet (talk) 11:52, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- That works for me (although the parentheses might be replaced by commas for elegance). Any objections? Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 11:57, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me! Smallangryplanet (talk) 12:02, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- That works for me (although the parentheses might be replaced by commas for elegance). Any objections? Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 11:57, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- It's worth noting that it's not a change in leadership (he took over after Nguyễn Phú Trọng's death in 2024) but a re-election, so how about "Tô Lâm is re-elected as General Secretary (the highest political authority of Vietnam) by the 14th Communist Party Congress." Smallangryplanet (talk) 11:52, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- I figured the added context was the relevance of the event (as it is functionally a change in country leadership rather than "just" party leadership), but I'd be happy if we find an alternate way to convey it. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 11:43, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Chaotic Enby: It seems the main page, 14th National Congress of the Communist Party of Vietnam, should be bolded, not Tô Lâm, which only has a one-sentence mention. —Bagumba (talk) 08:12, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
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RD: E. A. Siddiq
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.ntnews.com/telangana/8-renowned-agricultural-scientist-siddiqui-passes-away-2279674
Credits:
- Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit) and Ξένηβ (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.
Nominator's comments: Indian scientist. Article looks good. Onegreatjoke (talk) 22:52, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Article quality is sufficient. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:02, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Article is all good in its quality for posting on RD. CastleFort1 (talk) 04:29, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment The birth year and birthplace failed verification.—Bagumba (talk) 07:44, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
RD: Francis Buchholz
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): TMZ New York Post People DW
Credits:
- Nominated by thrashbandicoot01 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.
Nominator's comments: German musician who is best known as the bassist for the German hard rock band Scorpions, and performed with the band during the height of their commercial success. thrashbandicoot01 (talk) 22:12, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Only thing without citation in the article is the date and location of Buchholz's birth, though that can be easily fixed. The rest of the article appears fine. CastleFort1 (talk) 04:27, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
RD: Floyd Vivino
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): USA Today
Credits:
- Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.
Thriley (talk) 16:37, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality I spotted five CN tags within the article. CastleFort1 (talk) 04:24, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
Davos
[edit]Blurb: The 56th World Economic Forum at Davos hosts speeches by leaders such as Mark Carney (pictured) and the launch of the Board of Peace. (Post)
Alternative blurb: The 56th World Economic Forum at Davos concludes after hosting various speeches by world leaders, including Mark Carney (pictured).
Alternative blurb II: The 56th World Economic Forum at Davos, Switzerland, concludes after the launch of US President Donald Trump’s Board of Peace and a speech by Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney.
News source(s): Al Jazeera, BBC, Politico,The Conversation
Credits:
- Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
- Created by NHCLS (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Nominator's comments: There's a lot of news coming out of Davos this year and so someone has made a start on an article. It could use some work but so it goes. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:38, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support This year, other than the main forum, we have seen other side events like the launch of the Board of Peace and there seems to be much more press coverage on it this year than previously. This can be compared to the 2025 Trump-Xi meeting on the sidelines of the APEC summit and the 2025 signing of the Kuala Lumpur Peace Accord on the sidelines of the ASEAN summit, which all hyped up the media.
- Comment I'd wait for it to be completed as to determine any important points. I'd also beg inclusion of the board of peace as many sources, while acknowledging it, do not give it much credibility due to who's on it. If anything, it may be better to update the Greenland blurb to say that from Davos, Trump backed off on his Greenland plans but even that's shrouded in unknown terms. Masem (t) 15:42, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support alt, with caveat Davos has generated far more buzz this year than in the past, such that I agree a blurb is warranted. Two caveats: (1) I agree with Masem to wait until it’s finished, (2) I am fine with Carney’s speech going in the blurb given the widespread coverage but disagree with including the Board of Peace. Addending the Board to the blurb randomly seems like mashing up two completely separate news events. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 16:45, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose on notability it's all bluster and an industrial scale modern day pissing contest, but if you take away the "big scary words" then it's just billonaires flying over to a nice resort for a lunch meeting to achieve absolutely nothing, unless one counts de-escalation of an self-imposed escalation as an achievement. Most ordinary white collar officers workers achieve more over a Zoom call on an ordinary working morning. We must not let Wikipedia fall into the trap of giving undue weight to events just because they make good clickbait and soundbites for the media to overanalyse and be manipulated into over-reporting. Abcmaxx (talk) 16:58, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- That’s not a very charitable interpretation of this year’s meeting. There was more widespread coverage than usual for a reason, and many very reputable sources are calling some of the speeches (like Carney’s) to be among the most important speeches of the decade in world politics, given the emphasis on the western alliance being in a rupture/collapse. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 17:14, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Wherever Trump is, there will be more media coverage. He is controversial and knows how to play on that. Real notoriety of everything? Debatable. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:51, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- There's been more coverage because the media is addicted to outrage porn, and Trump is great at rage-baiting. Carney’s speech was great speech-quality wise, but that alone isn't a reason to post, especially as there is no article on it; there have been numerous important speeches each given year, none of them have ever been posted. Abcmaxx (talk) 18:11, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Wherever Trump is, there will be more media coverage. He is controversial and knows how to play on that. Real notoriety of everything? Debatable. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:51, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- That’s not a very charitable interpretation of this year’s meeting. There was more widespread coverage than usual for a reason, and many very reputable sources are calling some of the speeches (like Carney’s) to be among the most important speeches of the decade in world politics, given the emphasis on the western alliance being in a rupture/collapse. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 17:14, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose per Abcmaxx World leaders gathering and saying the same things they say the rest of the year, but in the high mountains. Carney's choice is not only completely random (the German Chancellor's speech has also gone viral on social media, and calling it the 'speech of the decade’ is quite bold), but also totally unnecessary. The article also shows a clear bias. Either it covers the content of this year's meeting more extensively, or it is completely useless. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:33, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Alsor97, Your statement that "sources say all the same things" every year and that Carney is "completely random" is just not true. You can disagree with all of the sources saying it was historic, but to state something so verifiably untrue like it is a "random" choice is just intellectually dishonest. See below:
- - "It will almost certainly go down as the most important speech in Canadian history up to this point" 1
- - "Blockbuster speech heard round the world" 2
- - "Carney's blunt speech was historic. But what comes next?" 3
- - "A speech for the history books" 4
- - "This is the type of speech that will likely be remembered in history books centuries from now. I’m not exaggerating: it’s potentially this consequential" 5
- I could go on. In addition to all of the above, the speech attracted direct government responses from world leaders (e.g. Claudia Sheinbaum of Mexico). Is any of that true of the German speech (if so, great - add it to the blurb or propose an alt). FlipandFlopped ㋡ 17:59, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- After all the hype surrounding Carney's speech... what now? We can't behave like Twitter and settle for the clickbait of what was, I won't deny it, a good speech. We already know that politics is based, excessively, on grand speeches and few actions. _-_Alsor (talk) 18:07, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support in principle as there's a lot of big news coming out of this, but the current blurb won't cut it. Why Carney? It seems like Trump's been stealing the show this time around. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 17:46, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Even Carney's speech on middle powers was spurred by Trump's threats. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 17:48, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Carney's speech seemed to get the best reception. For example, One venue, two speeches – how Mark Carney left Donald Trump in the dust in Davos. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:53, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- The problem with focus g on a speech is that it's not any actual actionable thing, until such a time that new treaties or the like are passed. ITN should not be used to highlight something that, by other sources, is considered subjective, like the assessment of Carney's speech. There are potentially other aspects like backing trump off the planned tariffs on the Greenland deal, which are concrete objective results but even then, that seems something to merge into the current blurb. Masem (t) 18:00, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- We're currently blurbing a football result which is not an actionable thing; it's just a bunch of guys kicking a ball around. Political speeches are often anodyne but sometimes they are major events such as Churchill's Iron Curtain speech. Carney's speech seems to be in that historic league. It got a standing ovation at Davos, which is an unusual tribute there. And the commentary echoes this exceptional reception. For example,
Andrew🐉(talk) 18:13, 22 January 2026 (UTC)Mark Carney’s speech in Davos on the end of the world order is rightly being hailed as one of the most powerful interventions by any political leader in the year since Donald Trump returned to the White House. My social media feed and WhatsApp groups have been filled with veterans of past Davos gatherings telling me it was the most important speech they had ever heard delivered in the Swiss mountain town – or indeed expect to hear this year.
- What may be newsworthy or abuzz on social media does not always translate to something that is encyclopedic or may not apparently be encyclopedic in the short term, that's why we are not a newspaper abs need to stop thinking of trying to keep up to the news at the same level of detail. Carney's speech could possibly be seen as equivalent yo sonething like the Gettysburg Address but it's clearly not apparent now, so focusing on it is not appropriate. In contrast a assc football game us the culminate of games and an event that gets dociumrnted in the sports field so has clear immediate importance. Masem (t) 18:21, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- The Gettysburg Address was not well received at the time and only became famous decades later. So, Carney's speech is already well ahead of that example in getting such recognition and plaudits immediately. I and others have cited many sources to this effect while the nay-sayers have not produced any sources to the contrary. The score seems to be at least 8–nil. Andrew🐉(talk) 23:34, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- You just proved my point. It takes a while for something like a speech to be known to have a significant impact, and not just praised or positively commented about. That's why we should not be giving that undue attention as WP is not a newspaper but looks for how topics are covered in an enduring manner. Maybe a few years from now Carney's speech may have had a clear impact. Masem (t) 00:48, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- No, the Gettysburg address was somewhat unusual. Unlike a Trump speech, it was quite brief but this enabled it to be recited at Memorial Day events. And this brevity meant that it could be carved into the Lincoln Memorial 60 years later. It was this repetition that made it famous. Other speeches such as the Fulton Speech have an impact more immediately and so it is with Carney's. This has been demonstrated by the sources which already call it historic. And note that it now has its own article like those other speeches. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:25, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- A burst of coverage over a couple of days does not equate to notability nor fame, compared to decades like with Gettysburg, or the Fulton Speech, or MLK's I Have a Dream. And of course, we have to consider the vast difference between how news was reported then (at best, on a daily basis), compared to 24/7 coverage today, which is a bias we correct for. And just because someone created an article doesn't mean its notable - right now, I'd say the lack of secondary coverage of it (not just reiterating elements of the speech) indicate that's not yet meeting notability standards. Masem (t) 12:26, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Masem has yet to produce a single source supporting his dismissive position. Me, I've been working on the speech article and have had no trouble expanding it to show the immediate impact. For example, see Trump Rescinds Canada’s Invitation to Join His ‘Board of Peace’. This nicely ties together both Carney's speech and the Board of Peace. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:18, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- There is nothing to affirm that Trump pulled the invite because of his speech. Its highly speculated from many sources that the speech compelled Trump to do that, but that's not an encyclopedic fact we should be concluding as it is OR otherwise. That's the bulk of the problem with how editors treat news on WP, jumping to conclusions on importance without any clear lack of actual long-term impact only because dozens of news sources exist. We are to write for the long-term picture, and that means we need to see how events are treated with enduring coverage, not just a burst of coverage in the days after the event.If you want to write about news that way, that's what Wikinews is for, not en.wiki. Masem (t) 13:56, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- I work on such articles as they are what matters most to our readership. The top read article on Wikipedia yesterday was Board of Peace. I worked on that too and have nominated it twice now at ITN. If ITN continues to run stale and trivial stuff instead then our readers will continue to ignore it as they mostly ignore Wikinews. See Proposal for Closing Wikinews for details of what happens when your project fails... Andrew🐉(talk) 14:18, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- ITN doesn't work on viewership, nor does notability. You're free to work on an article with unclear notability, but if, say, in two weeks there's no clear enduring coverage of the speech, that means it will have failed WP:N and NEVENT and should be deleted. That's why we're not a newspaper and avoid covering topics just because there's a burst of news coverage. Masem (t) 14:22, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- While I think Masem is being unnecessarily gatekeep-y in his reading of NOTNEWS and his approach to ITN, I also feel that Andrew’s approach to this is also unnecessarily aggressive and keeps bringing up criterion we have repeatedly dismissed as importing to ITN, including readership that he keeps hammering on, and implying that this will result in the closure of ITN is not helpful at all. And I say this as someone who has supported posting this due to Carney’s speech and appreciate all the work he’s done for the article on it. GhostStalker (Got a present for ya! / Mission Log) 16:04, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- We have lots of articles about the various related topics including Carney and his speech; Trump and his Board of Peace; Davos; the WEF; Greenland; NATO; the crisis; and more. So, figuring out which article(s) to highlight is part of the challenge here. The readership stats are helpful in this in that they show which articles are getting the most attention. This indications will reflect the perceived impact and the level of coverage of the various aspects across all the global media.
- In this case, we find that the Board of Peace was the top read for the second day in a row, and so that topic is the one of most interest to our readers. I would not have expected that there would be such interest in it and so it's revealing to learn this. Our discussions should be informed by such data as otherwise we're working in the dark. There is absolutely no prohibition of this and editors who suggest otherwise are mistaken.
- Andrew🐉(talk) 08:58, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- I work on such articles as they are what matters most to our readership. The top read article on Wikipedia yesterday was Board of Peace. I worked on that too and have nominated it twice now at ITN. If ITN continues to run stale and trivial stuff instead then our readers will continue to ignore it as they mostly ignore Wikinews. See Proposal for Closing Wikinews for details of what happens when your project fails... Andrew🐉(talk) 14:18, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- There is nothing to affirm that Trump pulled the invite because of his speech. Its highly speculated from many sources that the speech compelled Trump to do that, but that's not an encyclopedic fact we should be concluding as it is OR otherwise. That's the bulk of the problem with how editors treat news on WP, jumping to conclusions on importance without any clear lack of actual long-term impact only because dozens of news sources exist. We are to write for the long-term picture, and that means we need to see how events are treated with enduring coverage, not just a burst of coverage in the days after the event.If you want to write about news that way, that's what Wikinews is for, not en.wiki. Masem (t) 13:56, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Masem has yet to produce a single source supporting his dismissive position. Me, I've been working on the speech article and have had no trouble expanding it to show the immediate impact. For example, see Trump Rescinds Canada’s Invitation to Join His ‘Board of Peace’. This nicely ties together both Carney's speech and the Board of Peace. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:18, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- A burst of coverage over a couple of days does not equate to notability nor fame, compared to decades like with Gettysburg, or the Fulton Speech, or MLK's I Have a Dream. And of course, we have to consider the vast difference between how news was reported then (at best, on a daily basis), compared to 24/7 coverage today, which is a bias we correct for. And just because someone created an article doesn't mean its notable - right now, I'd say the lack of secondary coverage of it (not just reiterating elements of the speech) indicate that's not yet meeting notability standards. Masem (t) 12:26, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- No, the Gettysburg address was somewhat unusual. Unlike a Trump speech, it was quite brief but this enabled it to be recited at Memorial Day events. And this brevity meant that it could be carved into the Lincoln Memorial 60 years later. It was this repetition that made it famous. Other speeches such as the Fulton Speech have an impact more immediately and so it is with Carney's. This has been demonstrated by the sources which already call it historic. And note that it now has its own article like those other speeches. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:25, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- You just proved my point. It takes a while for something like a speech to be known to have a significant impact, and not just praised or positively commented about. That's why we should not be giving that undue attention as WP is not a newspaper but looks for how topics are covered in an enduring manner. Maybe a few years from now Carney's speech may have had a clear impact. Masem (t) 00:48, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- The Gettysburg Address was not well received at the time and only became famous decades later. So, Carney's speech is already well ahead of that example in getting such recognition and plaudits immediately. I and others have cited many sources to this effect while the nay-sayers have not produced any sources to the contrary. The score seems to be at least 8–nil. Andrew🐉(talk) 23:34, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- What may be newsworthy or abuzz on social media does not always translate to something that is encyclopedic or may not apparently be encyclopedic in the short term, that's why we are not a newspaper abs need to stop thinking of trying to keep up to the news at the same level of detail. Carney's speech could possibly be seen as equivalent yo sonething like the Gettysburg Address but it's clearly not apparent now, so focusing on it is not appropriate. In contrast a assc football game us the culminate of games and an event that gets dociumrnted in the sports field so has clear immediate importance. Masem (t) 18:21, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- We're currently blurbing a football result which is not an actionable thing; it's just a bunch of guys kicking a ball around. Political speeches are often anodyne but sometimes they are major events such as Churchill's Iron Curtain speech. Carney's speech seems to be in that historic league. It got a standing ovation at Davos, which is an unusual tribute there. And the commentary echoes this exceptional reception. For example,
- The problem with focus g on a speech is that it's not any actual actionable thing, until such a time that new treaties or the like are passed. ITN should not be used to highlight something that, by other sources, is considered subjective, like the assessment of Carney's speech. There are potentially other aspects like backing trump off the planned tariffs on the Greenland deal, which are concrete objective results but even then, that seems something to merge into the current blurb. Masem (t) 18:00, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose on article quality and significance. Article is full of WP:EXCESSDETAIL and WP:TRUMPCRUFT and includes an off-hand mention of the Board of Peace in the lead without any further coverage. Although Carney's speech was great, there's not yet any indication that anything more will come of it. Inclusion of the Board of Peace was already rejected and shouldn't be shoehorned in here. EvansHallBear (talk) 19:49, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support blurb with inclusion of Carney's speech. Like it or not, Davos has attracted more media attention than usual because of what has been said there. -GhostStalker (Got a present for ya! / Mission Log) 20:17, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support - Creation of an international organization. JaxsonR (talk) 20:21, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- @JaxsonR The World Economic Forum was founded 55 years ago and the Board of Peace is not the main article nominated and its ITN discussion was closed due to lack of support. _-_Alsor (talk) 20:38, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Ohhh my bad! JaxsonR (talk) 20:39, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- no worries! _-_Alsor (talk) 20:48, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- You're good. The first meeting of the Board of Peace at Davos seemed to be today's main highlight of the conference -- there's extensive coverage in all the major international media such as AP, Reuters, China Daily, EuroNews, &c. Andrew🐉(talk) 20:57, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Ohhh my bad! JaxsonR (talk) 20:39, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- @JaxsonR The World Economic Forum was founded 55 years ago and the Board of Peace is not the main article nominated and its ITN discussion was closed due to lack of support. _-_Alsor (talk) 20:38, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Board of Peace mention (has received much more press since its previous ITN nomination) but oppose Mark Carney mention — a politician delivered a well-received speech, so what? Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 21:04, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- I would like to add, I believe the Board of Peace should be bolded rather than Davos. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 22:05, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Conditional support on highlighting the establishment of the Board of Peace, but I oppose mentioning Mark Carney’s speech.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 21:25, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment I am very wary of giving Board of Peace any mention because it has yet had any recognition by the UN or non signatutors to it, and as most commentors have described it, seems more like a means to funnel more money. Masem (t) 21:49, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- I would disagree that it does not have UN recognition. UNSC Resolution 2803: "Welcomes the establishment of the Board of Peace (BoP) as a transitional administration with international legal personality." This resolution is what paved the way for the establishment of the board. Trump has expanded the BoP's scope beyond what the UN intended, but that's a separate conversation. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 22:02, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- The BoP charter doesn't mention Gaza at all. It's not that the BoP merely goes beyond the scope of what the UN intended, but it's completely divorced from United Nations Security Council Resolution 2803. EvansHallBear (talk) 22:32, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, this new Board of Peace does not appear consistent with what the UN voted in, and unwillingness of the normal nations at UN wanting to participate is telling. Masem (t) 23:21, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Please specify what
"normal nations"
means 🤨? Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 23:23, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Please specify what
- Yes, this new Board of Peace does not appear consistent with what the UN voted in, and unwillingness of the normal nations at UN wanting to participate is telling. Masem (t) 23:21, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- The BoP charter doesn't mention Gaza at all. It's not that the BoP merely goes beyond the scope of what the UN intended, but it's completely divorced from United Nations Security Council Resolution 2803. EvansHallBear (talk) 22:32, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- I would disagree that it does not have UN recognition. UNSC Resolution 2803: "Welcomes the establishment of the Board of Peace (BoP) as a transitional administration with international legal personality." This resolution is what paved the way for the establishment of the board. Trump has expanded the BoP's scope beyond what the UN intended, but that's a separate conversation. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 22:02, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- I understand the implication to be that normal nations are those whose leaders abide by international norms, and do not, for example, pay a billion dollars each to 'Chairman Trump' to join a Board of Peace which has no external recognition, no official remit or powers, and as has already been noted, no relationship whatever to Resolution 2803. (Normal US presidents, come to that, do not participate in private money-making schemes while in office - in this case, see Foreign Emoluments Clause.) GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:30, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- I don't know why awaiting UN recognition matters here. Trump seems to be parting ways with UN and works on the creation of a new world order. That's a very big deal in international relations.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:24, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Only if it succeeds, per WP:CRYSTAL. Otherwise, it's just a giant waste of everyone's time, effort, money, and attention, for a man who two days ago couldn't consistently tell Greenland from Iceland. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:31, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what kind of success we're looking for. It already exists and has 26 member states. What else is needed? --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:37, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- To achieve something for the wider world, rather than merely separating fools from their money. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:42, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- I agree it's just a show for now, but its launch is notable (and this is how it's phrased in the suggested blurbs). We don't need to wait for it to achieve something in order to confirm notability, and the expectation that it'll ultimately fail is the kind of POV we should avoid.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 00:00, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- It's certainly notable, and it has a reasonably fleshed-out page reflecting that, including a lead section that's a lot more scathing, in its way, than I have been. I'm not predicting it will fail; I'm saying that we have no evidence whether it will succeed or fail, so while the mere fact of its existence is notable, it's not significant enough for ITN. GenevieveDEon (talk) 00:04, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- I agree it's just a show for now, but its launch is notable (and this is how it's phrased in the suggested blurbs). We don't need to wait for it to achieve something in order to confirm notability, and the expectation that it'll ultimately fail is the kind of POV we should avoid.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 00:00, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- To achieve something for the wider world, rather than merely separating fools from their money. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:42, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what kind of success we're looking for. It already exists and has 26 member states. What else is needed? --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:37, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Only if it succeeds, per WP:CRYSTAL. Otherwise, it's just a giant waste of everyone's time, effort, money, and attention, for a man who two days ago couldn't consistently tell Greenland from Iceland. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:31, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose per Abcmaxx. Apparently this is the 56th one. What makes this year's meeting so much more significant and important than the prior ones, that it needs to be on the front page of Wikipedia? (Also agree with EvansHallBear re: WP:TRUMPCRUFT.) Some1 (talk) 00:21, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose now, at the 56th meeting of the WEF, isn't the time to introduce it to ITN. Scuba 03:47, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment Why is Mark Carney in particular being highlighted in the blurb? --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:07, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support on notability — This year's Davos has attracted significantly more attention specifically because of the trans-Atlantic tensions over Greenland, the Board of Peace, etc. But the current article fails to adequately capture that, so oppose on quality for now. DecafPotato (talk) 04:20, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Carney since his speech is making a big splash internationally, as much as Trump it seems This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 06:10, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose per Abcmaxx, EvansHallBear, and Masem. The Kip (contribs) 06:21, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose - All of this is largely positioning and posturing, rather than achievement. It may very well be that Carney's speech comes to be regarded as of similar significance to Churchill's 'Iron Curtain' speeach - but we can't defy WP:CRYSTAL and claim it now. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:07, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose – I am thoroughly unpleased by the current state of the article. I am practically opposing it on WP:NOTTRUMP alone (the article is significantly weighted towards his speech). We had a much more impressive article on an international convention last fall that didn't get posted either. This article would need a lot of work to meet that level. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 11:17, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose if there is significance, it isn't in the article. Separate note: people really need to stop citing WP:TRUMPCRUFT as the reason for opposition. It's not a policy, and it doesn't say (or suggest) that everything Trump touches is irrelevant. GreatCaesarsGhost 14:07, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- In this case, I cited a Trump-related essay not because I don't think this man does notable stuff, but just because the article is so heavily weighted towards his speech at the event. If this article were titled "Trump's speech at Davos 2025", no one would support it being posted, because he makes himself heard all the time. In general, I am a bit weirded out that the article suggests big speeches are the only thing of note happening here, which might be a larger issue. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 07:57, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality, essentially: the article is too nebulous, and at the same time exaggeratedly focused on a few speeches. The sections about the meeting itself, its purpose, its conduct, are proportionally too limited. The blurbs sound like they really would like to be about Carney instead of about the meeting. Yakikaki (talk) 16:37, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support blurb with inclusion of Carney's speech. BabbaQ (talk) 17:35, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- For people not seeing the significance of the Carney mention and why this wasn't just another political speech, I found this piece on Lawfare to be the clearest explanation. —Cryptic 17:46, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose. We're already currently covering the most important angle of this event, the Greenland dispute, in the box already. DarkSide830 (talk) 18:34, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Close I don't see consensus for posting forming. Bremps... 03:28, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose A confused nom which mixes three different topics together. 1) Clearly the WEF meet isn't significant (as seen by the blurbs) but rather what is being discussed there. For the speech, I don't recall we have ever done this for any speech at ITN (remember the Vance's speech at the security forum last year was also not posted). 2) For Greenland we already have a solid blurb for which updates can be taken up at WP:ERRORS etc. 3) We explicitly rejected posting the BOP for Gaza in a separate nom, underhanded to bundle it up here. Gotitbro (talk) 04:35, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose per Gotitbro. Natg 19 (talk) 06:58, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
Remove from ongoing: Iranian protests
[edit]Nominator's comments: There have been no updates to the article's protest timeline since 19 January and the article describes few protests since 14 January. Iran seems to have successfully stopped them. This is also my first time making an ongoing nomination so please tell me if I did something wrong. SpectralIon 19:48, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Iran protests have completely dropped out of the news and there's no indication that significant protests are still going on. EvansHallBear (talk) 19:52, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support No update since January 19th. JaxsonR (talk) 20:30, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support, protests appear to have died down since the crackdown. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:36, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support removal – There are no longer significant updates. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 22:06, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- support should have been a few days ago. NOThin gof import now.Psephguru (talk) 22:17, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support removal, they're basically over with no new updates. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 00:10, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose removal—I say give it a few more days, see what happens. If there are still no new updates, then I'd support removal without prejudice towards re-adding the topic at a later date. Kurtis (talk) 06:08, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Weak oppose given the last timeline update was Wednesday and the ongoing internet/communications blackout makes it hard to tell what still is or isn't happening. Media coverage has certainly gone down, however. The Kip (contribs) 06:23, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose for now, the internet blackout could make it difficult to tell what's going on. We should probably wait a few more days (by @Kurtis), then we can see what happens and if anything has changed. Jalapeño (u t g) 13:09, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose for a few more days. There were many stories yesterday (including Trump's "armada" business) and conflicting claims on whether the protests have ended [5]. At a certain point, the lack of detail does become a reason to remove, but we shouldn't rush on that account. The persistence of the internet blackout is good reason to doubt the regime's claims. GreatCaesarsGhost 13:55, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- There's also concern of a US armada making its way to Iran now [6]. But the protest article should remain updated as best as it can be to say on ongoing. Masem (t) 14:23, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- mojahadeen is certinly not a RS.Psephguru (talk) 20:14, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose – Article updates of the past three days have been much more significant than those on the Russo-Ukrainian War or the Sudanese War of the past week. Looks like those would be more subject for removal at this time. We shouldn't quite remove articles from ongoing until the significant updates really have started trickling. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 14:30, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- The current updates are mostly data coming in about the protests now that they're largely over. In fact, one of these updates included an announcement by Iran's officials on 21 January that the protests are over. SpectralIon 19:42, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Just because the physical events have concluded doesn't mean the news story is no longer ongoing. We're featuring the evolution of our articles, we're not featuring the protests themselves. The past two days the article still has seen some lovely activity. I expect that activity will diminish in the coming days though, so a pull in a few days is probably fine. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 08:04, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- The current updates are mostly data coming in about the protests now that they're largely over. In fact, one of these updates included an announcement by Iran's officials on 21 January that the protests are over. SpectralIon 19:42, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose The readership is down from its recent peak but is still more than double all the other ongoing topics, including Ukraine. In these stats I've added two other unposted ongoing topics as benchmarks for comparison – Gaza war and 2026 FIFA World Cup. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:09, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Is readership a valid reason to keep an event on ongoing past its end? I haven't really dabbled in ongoing before so I'm genuinely unsure. SpectralIon 04:05, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- In theory, no. WP:ITNSIGNIF is based on whether an event is current and whether it is being covered in depth by news sources. EvansHallBear (talk) 04:20, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- No, WP:ITNSIGNIF gives some examples of possible criteria but, overall,
It is highly subjective whether an event is considered significant enough, and ultimately each event should be discussed on its own merits. The consensus among those discussing the event is all that is necessary
. My view is that the evidence shows that readers still want to know what's happening and, even if the blackout and repression makes this difficult, we should continue to show them what we've got. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:40, 24 January 2026 (UTC)- This is "In the news" and not "Most read". Which is why,
Generally, proof that an event is being covered, in an in-depth manner, by news sources is required.
EvansHallBear (talk) 14:41, 24 January 2026 (UTC)- The news covers many matters in an in-depth manner every day. Iran still gets such coverage -- for example, see yesterday's NYT. With so much to choose from, we tend to need something more and this is where the subjective consensus applies. With the coverage proven, my preference is to post the topics attracting most readers because this best satisfies ITN's purpose. And coverage and readership tend to go together rather than pulling in different directions and so they both confirm the notability of the subject. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:47, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- This is "In the news" and not "Most read". Which is why,
- No, WP:ITNSIGNIF gives some examples of possible criteria but, overall,
- In theory, no. WP:ITNSIGNIF is based on whether an event is current and whether it is being covered in depth by news sources. EvansHallBear (talk) 04:20, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Is readership a valid reason to keep an event on ongoing past its end? I haven't really dabbled in ongoing before so I'm genuinely unsure. SpectralIon 04:05, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose Its still on the front page of the BBC today so I think it still has some time to run. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 17:09, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- This is an eyewitness account from the protests on 9 January. Nothing in there discusses any ongoing protest activity. EvansHallBear (talk) 17:33, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose Removal There are plenty of updates on the ongoing page about the 22nd, as official Iranian figures have come out for the first time, and the political dance around this has just started as the internet comes back online. Normalman101 (talk) 21:53, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Nothing you mentioned here relates to the protests themselves. The protest timeline remains stuck at the 21st, with the event there being a statement that the protests are over. SpectralIon 04:03, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Your nomination, @Spectrallion claimed it was stuck at the 19th. Now you say it's stuck at the 21st? Does the government claiming the protests are over have any weight? There's certainly continuing updates to the article itself - including the estimates of casualties being over 300,000 people. Nfitz (talk) 07:32, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, due to a 2 day time difference between my nomination and my reply. The government claiming the protests does have weight as it shows they are confident enough now to claim victory. I'm not completely certain what the update stream guidelines for ongoing are but those updates do not show the protests continuing and in fact suggest they have ended considering information has began to exit Iran. SpectralIon 19:45, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Your nomination, @Spectrallion claimed it was stuck at the 19th. Now you say it's stuck at the 21st? Does the government claiming the protests are over have any weight? There's certainly continuing updates to the article itself - including the estimates of casualties being over 300,000 people. Nfitz (talk) 07:32, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Nothing you mentioned here relates to the protests themselves. The protest timeline remains stuck at the 21st, with the event there being a statement that the protests are over. SpectralIon 04:03, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose The Iran situation is very much in the news, with US claims that it is sending an armada (whatever that is) and making new threats to Iran. The US has said previously that this is about the student protests. There's no rush to remove this item. Nfitz (talk) 07:36, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose Removal Premature. The intensity has waned somewhat from the peak of the protests but it remains "ongoing" and ITN. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 03:58, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support CBS News reports the protests "appear to have largely subsided". Most of the continued coverage is about the massacres, which we have already blurbed. FallingGravity 16:57, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support per all above. _-_Alsor (talk) 19:35, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
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(Posted) RD: Kevin Johnson (defensive tackle)
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Spencer (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Dmhll (talk · give credit) and Flipandflopped (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.
Nominator's comments: Former NFL defensive tackle; killed at an LA homeless encampment. SpencerT•C 18:18, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support - This should be getting more support!! JaxsonR (talk) 18:43, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Quality sufficient. JaxsonR Ask and you shall receive
! Chorchapu (talk | edits) 19:24, 24 January 2026 (UTC) - Support Well sourced article, fine enough to post on RD. CastleFort1 (talk) 04:20, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment The "Pre-draft measurables" table is unsourced.—Bagumba (talk) 07:35, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose I gather from the article that he was a relatively minor NFL player, but there's a huge gap between ending the season in 2001 and being murdered in a homeless shelter in 2026. The article doesn't cover this 25 year gap at all. Abcmaxx (talk) 22:52, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- He had been homeless for years due to his health issues suspected to be related to his CTE, and did not accomplish anything of note. I have updated the article to clarify this. IMO, the article has appropriate depth for what he was principally noted for (his NFL career). SpencerT•C 01:40, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Posted—Bagumba (talk) 05:59, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
(Closed) LNP split
[edit]The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Blurb: In Australia, the Liberal–National Coalition splits following mass frontbencher resignations from the shadow cabinet. (Post)
News source(s): ABC
Credits:
- Nominated by Chorchapu (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Cruzctrl (talk · give credit)
- Support An edge case on notability, but the analogy is if an ages-old, major political party like the United States Democratic Party or the Canadian Liberal Party fragmented. The “split” of a major political party of that sort is an era-defining event within the political landscape of a country. This is also receiving widespread international coverage.
- FlipandFlopped ㋡ 23:59, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- It should be an era-defining event, but this is the second time they've done this since the last election (under the same two leaders no less). --~2026-46616-4 (talk) 06:30, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose internal political drama (as happens everywhere, everytime), questionable impact on the country's governance. _-_Alsor (talk) 00:39, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- This isn't some small thing; the two parties have been so interconnected for so long that this split will reverberate all across Australian politics. There's even talk of a National–One Nation alliance, which would really shake things up. In UK terms this dissolution might be somewhat akin to the Co-op Party and Labour splitting after an major election loss, and then the Co-op Party proposing joining with the Communists. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 01:01, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- There has already been a recent split in the UK Labour Party with the Corbynites forming a new party. And the right is quite fissiparous too, with recent high profile defections from the Conservatives to Reform. So there's plenty such similar news in the UK but ITN doesn't report any of it. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:32, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- This isn't some small thing; the two parties have been so interconnected for so long that this split will reverberate all across Australian politics. There's even talk of a National–One Nation alliance, which would really shake things up. In UK terms this dissolution might be somewhat akin to the Co-op Party and Labour splitting after an major election loss, and then the Co-op Party proposing joining with the Communists. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 01:01, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose for lack of significance, given the Coalition is splitting for a second time in less than a year and the earlier split in May 2025 was resolved within a few days after it was announced (all without making ITN). It is worth noting the Coalition is not a unitary party in its own right, but an agreement between two different parties that have split multiple times over policy differences in the past, only to reconcile afterwards; note especially that the Liberals and Nationals (and their predecessor parties) contested the 1931, 1934 and 1987 Australian federal elections separately. Oppius Brutus 01:11, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Weak oppose on notability. I doubt this will have international consequences.–DMartin (talk) 01:41, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose quite insignificant. The Coalition is really just an agreement with the National Party of Australia + the Liberal Party of Australia. I don't think this split will be too long, as David Littleproud himself that the "Nationals cannot be in the shadow ministry while Sussan Ley is the Leader". Its incoming increasingly likely that Sussan Ley's leadership will be challenged in the very near future. This is because it is extremely unlikely for the Liberal Party itself to win government in its own right, with the last time that happening under John Howard in the 1996 election. When that happens, its probable that they will reconcile, and 'reform' the Coalition. Cruzctrl (talk) 01:44, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose this already happened earlier this year This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 06:42, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose on notability I'm Australian, so can at least give some local perspective. While this is notable for Australia, I don't see it having any international notability. Personally if I saw a coalition in any other country splitting and not causing a change in government on ITN. I'd be a bit confused. Likely reality of this situation is that they will split for a few days, while the leader of the Liberal party is replaced and potentially the National party as well, before they come back together again. They split back in May 2025 and it lasted a week.Basetornado (talk) 06:49, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Neutral – The article is nice, but the update (~two new paragraphs) is not particularly impressive. The boycott article was much more impressive and was more thorough with meeting INTSIGNIF too. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 09:58, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose as domestic + this isn’t even the first time it’s happened this year. The Kip (contribs) 15:35, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose This seems to be happening more frequently now. For all we know the coalition might just reform in a few weeks. --SpectralIon 23:54, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose the event as of right now doesn't meet WP:ITNSIGNIF. I this causes another notable event like a general election or country leadership change, then that can be posted at that time. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:12, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
Restart of Kashiwazaki-Kariwa nuclear power plant
[edit]Blurb: Kashiwazaki-Karuwa, the highest-generating nuclear power plant in the world, is restarted for the first time since the 2011 Japan earthquake and Fukushima nuclear accident. (Post)
News source(s): France24, BBC
Credits:
- Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)
Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: Article needs to be updated to reflect opening and additional cleanup. Masem (t) 14:32, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support when article fully updated with reopening. -GhostStalker (Got a present for ya! / Mission Log) 15:09, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support per above important news for the energy sector This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 15:48, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose – Article is orange-tagged and not appropriately updated yet. I imagine there's a lot of information we could include with regards to bringing this bad boy back online. I hope someone will take it upon themselves to improve this article, as it has a lot of potential for a frontpage feature :) (edit: I will also note that the article currently doesn't make clear how significant Unit 6's restart even is, seeing as there have been partial starts in the past. Lots of work to do here I think...) ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 16:03, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- At least as I write this those are not orange tags, they are yellow which is generally acceptable as cleanup but not deficiency (compare to {{More citations needed}}) Masem (t) 17:24, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- You're right that the yellow-tags themselves are not inherently an issue for posting (I love my excessive details), I apologize for that. I do think that the article is not appropriately updated for a feature. The 2025/2026 information is much too limited and timeliney, eventhough that's the new information we would be featuring primarily. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 09:30, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- At least as I write this those are not orange tags, they are yellow which is generally acceptable as cleanup but not deficiency (compare to {{More citations needed}}) Masem (t) 17:24, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality I don't yet have thoughts about notability but the article is poorly cited in places and not up to scratch for posting. (edit conflict) Chorchapu (talk | edits) 16:04, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support - Very interesting and notable. JaxsonR (talk) 16:26, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality Article has some tags that need to be resolved and a few citation needed tags. Otherwise, would support once these issues are fixed. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:45, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support on notability, oppose on quality Per above. Article needs a clean up to streamline the prose and eliminate the outstanding orange tags. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 00:00, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Reiterating: those are yellow for style, not orange tags for content. Compare to {{more citations needed}} as an orange tag (and also see {{Ambox}} for how they are distinguished) Masem (t) 00:48, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Point taken, but I still maintain my point that the article should be cleaned up and streamlined. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 02:05, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Reiterating: those are yellow for style, not orange tags for content. Compare to {{more citations needed}} as an orange tag (and also see {{Ambox}} for how they are distinguished) Masem (t) 00:48, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support on notability, oppose on quality Interesting and notable event, but article needs work on citing, and could be more up-to-date. (Future editors please feel free to WP:PING me). –DMartin (talk) 01:43, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support on notability, oppose on quality as per above. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 06:04, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Needs work The BBC explains that,
Since 2015, Japan has restarted 15 out of its 33 operable reactors.
, but the article doesn't explain that this one is just part of that long-running restart plan for Japan's nuclear programme. Also the blurb's claim of "highest-generating" may be out-of-date. Apart from the fact that it has just been shut down again, its nominal capacity is about 8 GW but this source gives the top place to Hanul Nuclear Power Plant with a rating of about 9 GW. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:40, 22 January 2026 (UTC) - Oppose for now on notability, oppose on quality given it only stayed on a few hours [BBC News - Japan suspends world's largest nuclear plant hours after restart https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2yy8z91n4o], this ended up being more symbolic than newsworthy. If fixed and stays on for longer than WP:ITNSIGNIF may be met. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:15, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- oppose it lasted one day.Psephguru (talk) 22:19, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose per Joseph and Psephguru. The Kip (contribs) 10:00, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose on notability The plant's restart was only brief. The nuclear plant stayed on for a few hours and then was suspended. CastleFort1 (talk) 04:19, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Princess Désirée, Baroness Silfverschiöld
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [7]
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by BabbaQ (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.
--BabbaQ (talk) 13:44, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- I question why we have an article on this minor aristocrat. The article does not mention a single notable thing that she did in her life - it's just a series of statements about how she related to (or accompanied) other more notable people. Does she even pass WP:NBIO? I don't speak Swedish, so can't tell if any of those sources constitute significant commentary on her life or are simply WP:ROUTINE. Modest Genius talk 14:04, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- She is a Swedish Royal. Even in the Succession order for the British Throne. All royals have their titles inherited. So I have a hard time understanding your rationale.BabbaQ (talk) 14:09, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- On the one hand, thousands of people, most of them not notable, are in the order of succession to the British throne. That's not much of a claim to fame - it falls under 'notability is not inherited'. However, I'm reasonably that a bona fide princess of an extant monarchy has a claim to notability well beyond being way down the line of succession to a different monarchy. If you disagree, feel free to take it to AFD. As for the RD nomination, if she's got an article and it's not a stub and otherwise in decent order, she qualifies for RD. GenevieveDEon (talk) 14:17, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- "notability is not inherited" should not be applicable in cases of royalty, as its raison d'être is precisely the inheritance and their family relationship. Almost like the children of US presidents or worldwide first ladies. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:24, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- I'm fine with her getting treated as notable because of her membership of the Swedish royal family. My point is that the British succession is irrelevant; she was 306th out of over 5,000 people on that list in 2010, and has only dropped further since. There are people in the top 20 who (rightly) don't have have articles. GenevieveDEon (talk) 20:48, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- In this particular case, it is something "anecdotal" that does not define Désirée's notoriety, but rather as a princess and sister of a king. _-_Alsor (talk) 00:42, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- I'm fine with her getting treated as notable because of her membership of the Swedish royal family. My point is that the British succession is irrelevant; she was 306th out of over 5,000 people on that list in 2010, and has only dropped further since. There are people in the top 20 who (rightly) don't have have articles. GenevieveDEon (talk) 20:48, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- "notability is not inherited" should not be applicable in cases of royalty, as its raison d'être is precisely the inheritance and their family relationship. Almost like the children of US presidents or worldwide first ladies. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:24, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- On the one hand, thousands of people, most of them not notable, are in the order of succession to the British throne. That's not much of a claim to fame - it falls under 'notability is not inherited'. However, I'm reasonably that a bona fide princess of an extant monarchy has a claim to notability well beyond being way down the line of succession to a different monarchy. If you disagree, feel free to take it to AFD. As for the RD nomination, if she's got an article and it's not a stub and otherwise in decent order, she qualifies for RD. GenevieveDEon (talk) 14:17, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- She is a Swedish Royal. Even in the Succession order for the British Throne. All royals have their titles inherited. So I have a hard time understanding your rationale.BabbaQ (talk) 14:09, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- I'm agree with Modest Genius regarding the content of the article, I think it should be expanded and go into more depth about what she did as a princess. And, frankly, I do believe that the sister of a monarch, as a member of a reigning royal family, should have an article on Wikipedia. Her article was created more than 20 years ago and has never been questioned. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:16, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support The article seems ok and its fairytale name will cause a stir when listed in RD. Andrew🐉(talk) 14:54, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Good article, good improvements made by BabbaQ. Clearly notable per the WP:BASIC criteria. Yakikaki (talk) 17:34, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support - The article is sufficient. GenevieveDEon (talk) 20:48, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Article in good shape. The lead could be expanded a bit but it's not dealbreaker. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:46, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 22:45, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
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RD: Robert E. Hunter
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): RAND
Credits:
- Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.
Thriley (talk) 03:01, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality Orange tag and many CN tags within the Career section. CastleFort1 (talk) 04:17, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
RD: Rifaat al-Assad
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/syrias-rifaat-al-assad-the-butcher-of-hama-dies-at-88/ar-AA1UFpju?ocid=BingNewsSerp
Credits:
- Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Silmarillius (talk · give credit) and TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Syrian government and military official. Article needs some work. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:56, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Weak oppose there's a few CN tags and the article could use a bit of work but otherwise isn't in too bad shape. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 02:27, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Louva Dahozy
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): 12news.com
Credits:
- Nominated by QuicoleJR (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Castillob97 (talk · give credit) and Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.
Nominator's comments: Navajo activist. Article is long enough and fully sourced. QuicoleJR (talk) 16:33, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Article quality is good enough for RD. CastleFort1 (talk) 04:16, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 10:24, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Marie Bashir
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [8]
Credits:
- Nominated by Aydoh8 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by ~2025-33796-63 (talk · give credit) and Qwerty123M (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Former Governor of New South Wales. Article looks to be of sufficient quality. Aydoh8[what have I done now?] 15:31, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Article is of sufficient quality for RD. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 08:18, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment Regarding the red "Lieutenant" in the info box. The two people listed, on their pages are listed as "Lieutenant-Governor of New South Wales". I assume this is the title that her info box is referring to, so if that's correct it should be updated to Lieutenant-Governor. I couldn't find this in the sources so don't want to change it. Salmon Of Ignorance (talk) 09:07, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Fixed it TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:52, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, looks good. Salmon Of Ignorance (talk) 08:49, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Fixed it TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:52, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Two cn tags shouldn't keep this otherwise well cited article from getting posted. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:52, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Unreferenced date of birth— Preceding unsigned comment added by Schwede66 (talk • contribs) 08:07, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Schwede66: I've found a source for the birth year so I've cut it back to simply 1930 since I can't confirm the date. Aydoh8[what have I done now?] 09:56, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support, quality seems decent. CMD (talk) 15:32, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Posted – Schwede66 23:15, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
RD: Rob Hirst
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [9]
Credits:
- Nominated by Aydoh8 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Qwerty123M (talk · give credit), ClaudineChionh (talk · give credit) and Goldsztajn (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.
Nominator's comments: Drummer of Australian rock band Midnight Oil. Article looks fine. Aydoh8[what have I done now?] 15:31, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Article looks good Salmon Of Ignorance (talk) 09:07, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Not yet ready Several paragraphs are currently unsourced. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 12:21, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Not ready Per MtPenguinMonster, as unsourced paragraphs continue to persist in the article. CastleFort1 (talk) 04:14, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
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RD: Patsy King
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [10]
Credits:
- Nominated by Happily888 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by HungryReptile (talk · give credit) and Quizical (talk · give credit)
Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.
Happily888 (talk) 00:45, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Fix quality, then post Orange tag needs to be resolved. Also the filmography and theatre sections need more sourcing. CastleFort1 (talk) 04:12, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Aforementioned deficiencies in sourcing have remained unresolved. Please add more REFs. Time is running out for this nom. --PFHLai (talk) 02:45, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
(Closed) 2026 College Football Playoff National Championship
[edit]The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Blurb: In college football, the Indiana Hoosiers defeat the Miami Hurricanes to win the 2025–26 College Football Playoff. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by BeanieFan11 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
- Support- International coverage in many countries outside of the United States. JaxsonR (talk) 17:41, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose. DYK has too many niche sports events alreads, and this one is specific to one junior league of one country. Sandstein 17:46, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- As an American, I agree with BeanieFan11's rationale and would like to get this posted, but we have nominated this every year and it has gotten rejected every time except 2020. Natg 19 (talk) 17:51, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose for the same reasons as every year: this is not the top level of competition in American football; American football is a niche sport in world terms that does not justify posting more than one event (the Superbowl); we generally avoid posting competitions only open to students; participation in the playoffs is by subjective rankings of a selection committee, not on-field performance; the inclusion of NCAA events has been discussed to death and almost always rejected (with the exception of basketball for some reason). I'm tired of having the same discussion every year - see the nominations in 2025, 2024, 2023, 2022, 2021 etc. which all failed to gain consensus. Modest Genius talk 18:09, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
which all failed to gain consensus
– you fail to mention that before 2021, we did post the 2020 college football championship. Why isparticipation in the playoffs is by subjective rankings of a selection committee
relevant at all to the subject's significance when we post many other events featuring only a select few of predetermined teams, like The Rugby Championship (open to only four teams – while college football has many hundreds of teams)? What should matter more is the significance of the event, rather than whether the sport of that event has enough worldwide viewers to your liking – though either way, the global coverage and the 1,000 international players does show this to be more than of interest to one country. Why should we not post an event that is more popular than the World Series, NHL Finals, NBA Finals, the equivalent basketball finals, and almost every other sporting event we list at ITNR? BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:18, 20 January 2026 (UTC)- I only checked the last five years before I got bored, I wasn't cherry-picking. I've just gone back further: we did indeed post in 2020, but not in 2019, 2018, 2017 or 2016. That's one success and nine failures. If you want to understand why I don' think this event is significant enough to post, read those previous nominations - I appear to have commented on most of them. Nothing substantial has changed that would affect my opinion. Modest Genius talk 18:53, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- The #1 of the table in each of the 4 power leagues (conferences) as well as the team adjugdged strongest of the number ones of the other tables (the rest of the college football pyramid level 1) get automatic berths (entry to the tournament bracket (the who plays who diagram) where all progress is determined by single-elimination tournament). Especially now cause they get buttloads of TV rights money the Power 4 plus Notre Dame University Fighting Irish (which has been nationally popular for at least a century one of the most popular college teams in NYC and Boston which have many 1840s Irish famine refugee descendants is the only non-conference team popular enough to be lumped in with the Power 4) is deemed practically a whole pyramid level above the other leagues (called cupcake (easy) leagues or conferences in college football) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 21:13, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- I've read this several times but still cannot work out what you're trying to say, or how it is relevant to my !vote. Modest Genius talk 17:39, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- You said participation in the playoffs is by subjective rankings of a selection committee and I countered that recent rule changes caused tournament entry (on a top seed even) to be ensurable by merely objectively winning a power conference by best win percentage with predetermined tiebreaking rules known to all competitors before the football year even starts (I thought that'd be called something to the effect of topping the table in Europe terms as you call standings tables) and 1 extra conference winner gets in too with less of that subjectivity involved then finally the subjective committee picks pick the rest of the 12 competitors (UEFA Champions League is kind of similar in that a coefficient determines if 3rd place of this league or 2nd place of this weaker league is more deserving of entry) but if you know college football you'd know that the rules are getting awefully close to giving each team with a chance to win a chance to get in by bypassing the committee with objective conference winning they're evolving in that direction and that the chance a non-Power 4+ND team could win might be less than the chance the US soccer team would've won Qatar 2022. The reasons this takes so long is complex some stakeholders would be hurt ie some of the athletes' academics (the fig leaf reason they're there we all know they're there for the NFL (they hope not everyone makes it) we can't have more academic scandals can we), the New Years Six's host cities' tourism etc. They'll likely soon move to 16 contestants+more lower level conferences auto-qualifying the floodgates to 16+ have opened. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 22:51, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- That's still very opaque to me, but what I think you're saying is that the current qualification process has less subjectivity than there used to be. Looking at 2025–26_College_Football_Playoff#Playoff_participants, it appears five teams qualified by winning their conference, and seven by the subjective selection committee (including three of the four semi-finalists). That's still a majority that are subjective. Besides, that does not invalidate the statement I made in my !vote. Modest Genius talk 13:08, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- You said participation in the playoffs is by subjective rankings of a selection committee and I countered that recent rule changes caused tournament entry (on a top seed even) to be ensurable by merely objectively winning a power conference by best win percentage with predetermined tiebreaking rules known to all competitors before the football year even starts (I thought that'd be called something to the effect of topping the table in Europe terms as you call standings tables) and 1 extra conference winner gets in too with less of that subjectivity involved then finally the subjective committee picks pick the rest of the 12 competitors (UEFA Champions League is kind of similar in that a coefficient determines if 3rd place of this league or 2nd place of this weaker league is more deserving of entry) but if you know college football you'd know that the rules are getting awefully close to giving each team with a chance to win a chance to get in by bypassing the committee with objective conference winning they're evolving in that direction and that the chance a non-Power 4+ND team could win might be less than the chance the US soccer team would've won Qatar 2022. The reasons this takes so long is complex some stakeholders would be hurt ie some of the athletes' academics (the fig leaf reason they're there we all know they're there for the NFL (they hope not everyone makes it) we can't have more academic scandals can we), the New Years Six's host cities' tourism etc. They'll likely soon move to 16 contestants+more lower level conferences auto-qualifying the floodgates to 16+ have opened. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 22:51, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- I've read this several times but still cannot work out what you're trying to say, or how it is relevant to my !vote. Modest Genius talk 17:39, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support per nom, just because it hasn’t been posted in the past doesn’t mean we can’t ever post it. Consensus can change over time, and this insistence that nothing has changed is becoming borderline ignorant of the global media coverage this receives. The Kip (contribs) 18:36, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose - not the top tier of American football. BabbaQ (talk) 18:49, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- American college football is very nearly if not more popular than NFL football. It’s an extremely popular “tier” and players do lots of “professional” things like transfer teams and get paid. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 19:04, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- At this point it's no longer accurate to call this competition as "amateur". Many players would rather play college football than the NFL; the champion Indiana team is mostly outside of college age in the US. Howard the Duck (talk) 19:42, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- And the winning quarterback made at least $2.6 million this year and is going to be picked first of first round of NFL draft for sure. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 21:19, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- At this point it's no longer accurate to call this competition as "amateur". Many players would rather play college football than the NFL; the champion Indiana team is mostly outside of college age in the US. Howard the Duck (talk) 19:42, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- American college football is very nearly if not more popular than NFL football. It’s an extremely popular “tier” and players do lots of “professional” things like transfer teams and get paid. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 19:04, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support per The Kip and my comment just above. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 19:05, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose per all above. _-_Alsor (talk) 19:49, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support due to live viewership around 20 million domestic in recent years and the changing Name, image and likeness rules erasing the line between amateur and professional. "selection committee" argument against posting is unfounded due to the top five conference champions being included in the 12 bracket participants. Omnifalcon (talk) 20:19, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose per above but slightly more notable due to Indiana going 16-0 Elisecars727 (talk)☺ 20:49, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose because the national playoff structure is still completely arbitrary. At least the NFL playoffs and other professional sports in the US have some sort of structure that isn't a committee of some sort deciding who goes to the playoff games because of something as subjective as "strength of the conferences". Yes, this is an absolutely huge TV money maker and the joke of amateurism in big name college sports like this is dead. Still doesn't change my mind. -GhostStalker (Got a present for ya! / Mission Log) 21:27, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Man, it'll be interesting if the NCAA had something similar to UEFA coefficients, but unlike European football, college football teams' player turnover is quick (a player can only play 4-5 years, but that may be litigated), this season's results no longer make sense to apply to the next. I'd love to return to computer rankings though... Howard the Duck (talk) 22:28, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose - We don't post the Carabao Cup, we no longer post the Boat Race, and we don't post that many national leagues or cups in sports that are much more widely played than gridiron. Special pleading about the US cuts no ice here. GenevieveDEon (talk) 21:57, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- @GenevieveDEon The EFL Cup is a "minor" trophy in the exact same British pyramid that we post the actual winner of (PL champion) every year, and the Boat Race was dropped because it's exclusively two schools (nobody has ever nor will ever propose posting the result of The Game here). They're not comparable. The Kip (contribs) 22:08, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- I don't think anyone who knows the subject would refer to the competitors in the Boat Race as 'schools'. In any case, none of that makes this student business into the top level of the game. GenevieveDEon (talk) 22:11, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Well calling a university a school is acceptable in informal writing in America and doesn't mean the person was being derogatory maybe in England it would be a putdown or slight. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 16:24, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- This, I went to an American college/university/whatever you want to call it of some prestige and calling it a "school" was a standard thing, not an insult. The Kip (contribs) 06:26, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Well calling a university a school is acceptable in informal writing in America and doesn't mean the person was being derogatory maybe in England it would be a putdown or slight. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 16:24, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- I don't think anyone who knows the subject would refer to the competitors in the Boat Race as 'schools'. In any case, none of that makes this student business into the top level of the game. GenevieveDEon (talk) 22:11, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment Coverage from international outlets does not strictly make it internationally prominent. Many of the sources listed cater to global audiences, such as The Guardian. I follow general sports news very closely in the UK, watch the NFL near enough every weekend, and only knew the CFP was on via our iPhone most-read article widget. The BBC did not mention it at all this year, or any year from what I know. I have only ever heard about it via NFL broadcasts. Not sure what the precedent is here, given the CFP is remarkably noteworthy within North American circles. Take Google Trends as an example. MB2437 22:30, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- FWIW, the Guardian piece linked above is an agency (i.e. newswire) piece that has been re-published by Guardian US. It's churnalism, no UK journalist has worked on it. For UK readers, it does not appear anywhere in the 'sport' section - which does contain two NFL stories. Even in the 'US sport' section, it's the 12th story. Modest Genius talk 13:13, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose I don't think niche sport tourney that is largely unknown outside of the west should get a blurb, even if the western news source claims it's now "global" sport. NotKringe (talk) 02:42, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support big congrats to Indiana. Scuba 03:25, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support College football is among the most watched leagues in the US and the world. I'm not usually one to complain about anti-american bias, but a lot of oppose's boil down to "We've had too much American stuff lately".23:18, 20 January 2026 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmartin969 (talk • contribs)
- Comment This is in the news and of interest to our readership. One can see this in that the winning quarterback and coach were #1 and #3 in the top read yesterday. The other big story generating views is the Beckham domestic drama and so members of the Beckham and Peltz family are taking many of the other top slots. The trouble is that Wikipedia has a policy WP:NOTNEWS which specifically deprecates coverage of routine sport and celebrity gossip and so this should disqualify both stories. So it goes... Andrew🐉(talk) 09:04, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- I would be surprised if NOTNEWS were applicable to the website's In The News section. MB2437 11:16, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- It is. Otherwise, we'd have weekly NFL and Premier League scores, daily stock market updates, and a separate line item for Trump's shenanigans. Howard the Duck (talk) 11:25, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Each of those items could be noteworthy enough for inclusion if they surpass the other blurb suggestions in relevance and prominence in the news. The only reason their inclusion is infrequent is to maintain variety—nobody wants to read Trump, Trump, football, Trump. While falling under celebrity gossip, the Beckham rift could very well be included given its prominence in RS. While a routine sport event, the result of the FIFA World Cup final—for example—would certainly be included. The same can be argued here, per above; I do not see how NOTNEWS is applicable. MB2437 13:07, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- The FIFA World Cup final happens once every four years; it's not "routine" by most definitions. Either way, I'd love to see updates on the random Burnley vs. Crystal Palace match being easily added without much discussion, while people here would have made arguments that are longer than many WP:DYK articles against Michigan vs. Ohio State "football". Howard the Duck (talk) 14:36, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Each of those items could be noteworthy enough for inclusion if they surpass the other blurb suggestions in relevance and prominence in the news. The only reason their inclusion is infrequent is to maintain variety—nobody wants to read Trump, Trump, football, Trump. While falling under celebrity gossip, the Beckham rift could very well be included given its prominence in RS. While a routine sport event, the result of the FIFA World Cup final—for example—would certainly be included. The same can be argued here, per above; I do not see how NOTNEWS is applicable. MB2437 13:07, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- It is. Otherwise, we'd have weekly NFL and Premier League scores, daily stock market updates, and a separate line item for Trump's shenanigans. Howard the Duck (talk) 11:25, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- I would be surprised if NOTNEWS were applicable to the website's In The News section. MB2437 11:16, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose The fact that it's a fairly niche sport and the fact that it's not the highest level means we shouldn't be posting it. We can't use TV viewers as a metric or we'd be posting the winning contestants of reality shows every week. Black Kite (talk) 11:33, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- We have one reality show listed at ITNR, and we should have no problem posting more if they were of interest to a lot of people, widely covered in the media, and resulted in a substantial quality update to the main space. I would agree doing so every week would be bad, but that's something of a straw man argument if we are discussing adding a second reality show or a third football competition. GreatCaesarsGhost 13:26, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- It's the highest level of college football which (like the highest level of Canadian football is the Grey Cup which is ITNR some crossover players can adjust to the rule differences some can't) is sufficiently different that some top college players become NFL draft busts (failures) simply because in college football the ball starts where it was last downed except 60 feet from the sideline if where it was downed was <60 feet and in NFL that number is 70.75 feet from sideline this affects strategy so much some top players never adjust. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 16:19, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support The event is well covered in reliable sources and the article has substantial quality updates based on recent events. If we ever hope to fix what is broken about ITN we need to stop splitting hairs in these significance arguments. GreatCaesarsGhost 13:26, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose, consider how globally popular football/soccer is (many magnitudes more than this), and that only the EPL and La Liga are ITNR for domestic leagues, while the only other club comps are Copa Libertadores and the Champions League (none for women’s) Kowal2701 (talk) 13:24, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Kowal2701 we used to have the Bundesliga on there as well, but it was removed as the articles were never properly updated for the frontpage. The Kip (contribs) 06:25, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks The Kip, yeah that makes sense, but I would’ve thought Serie A would be better to post since it’s more competitive (then leaving out Bundesliga and Ligue 1 of the big 5 has a bit of consistent reasoning to it). I was trying to think of non-European leagues but nothing really comes to mind that can be reasonably argued (CAF Champions League maybe but then we might as well be posting AFC Champions League etc.) Kowal2701 (talk) 08:25, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Kowal2701 we used to have the Bundesliga on there as well, but it was removed as the articles were never properly updated for the frontpage. The Kip (contribs) 06:25, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose - Five consecutive years of negative consensus is pretty damning. Duly signed, ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 13:33, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose - It would be nice to have more variety in ITN stories, but there's enough sport here already. CohenTheBohemian (talk) 15:53, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support - Clearly meets WP:ITNSIGNIF and article meets WP:ITNQUALITY. Complaints that this is only of interest to Americans or that there's too much sports on ITN are irrelevant per WP:ITNATA. American football does not have a tiered structure, so comparisons to secondary European football competitions are not accurate. The claim that we can only highlight the "top level" of a given sport would imply that we should no longer post about the Premier League champions or other domestic leagues since those competitions are below the UEFA Champions League. EvansHallBear (talk) 20:32, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Premier League (and some other leagues) have significant international coverage. Even in the USA you can watch a few Premier League games on terrestrial TV channels. You can't do that with local school sports teams in other countries. 02:57, 22 January 2026 (UTC) Nfitz (talk) 02:57, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Before streaming killed paid television, ESPN Star Sports used to air these college football and basketball games (but curiously never NFL; maybe the rights were too expensive) in Southeast and East Asia (for some reason). Howard the Duck (talk) 17:35, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- I thought ESPN Star Sports was a satellite service. There must have been 100 to 200 foreign language satellite channels on the local cable TV back in the day - penetration must have been low, let alone viewership. I'm surprised though - what was the viewership like? Nfitz (talk) 03:18, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Before streaming killed paid television, ESPN Star Sports used to air these college football and basketball games (but curiously never NFL; maybe the rights were too expensive) in Southeast and East Asia (for some reason). Howard the Duck (talk) 17:35, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Premier League (and some other leagues) have significant international coverage. Even in the USA you can watch a few Premier League games on terrestrial TV channels. You can't do that with local school sports teams in other countries. 02:57, 22 January 2026 (UTC) Nfitz (talk) 02:57, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Weak support - If March Madness (college basketball) is allowed then I have trouble seeing how the CFP (college football) is not. But explaining the distinctive nature of American college football fandom would require so much context that the argument would almost be self-defeating. (In short, (1) except for baseball, college sports predate pro sports by several decades and college fans are almost as tradition-obsessed as baseball fans; (2) the unofficial ban on giving the Deep South pro sports teams until the Civil Rights Act of 1964, meaning that for that region, college sports may as well be pro sports; (3) the persistent urban-rural divide where pro teams are generally reserved for big cities, so college football is the only game in town for vast swathes of the country. All of this sounds like non-EPL English football fandom, and as intense as that may be, I don’t think we post the Championship winner here?) Namelessposter (talk) 20:31, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Possibly less noteworthy than the Championship, which is the sixth-richest professional league in Europe and promotion from it offers the single largest monetary prize in sport at a minimum of £200 million (US$270 million). MB2437 00:33, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- I get your point. I suppose I should respond that the main reason the Championship promotion is such a big deal is because the Championship pays so little—the College Football Playoff TV deal pays more in a single year (for just 11 games) than the EFL does over five years for the entire competition. I have mixed feelings about this. I root for the college football equivalent of Fulham (when we are good) or QPR (when we are bad), and as we speak the Big Ten and Southeastern Conferences are trying to do to us what the EPL did to the EFL. It’s hard for me to get too invested in college football right now. I do think it is verifiably wrong to suggest that college football is less important to Americans than college basketball. The only reason I can think of for why March Madness gets posted at ITN is that college basketball has a more clearly defined nationwide cultural footprint: March is a notoriously slow month for American sports, so the basketball tournament tends to absorb the sports world’s attention. College football competes with the NFL, so there is less universality even if more people actually watch. Namelessposter (talk) 01:43, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- The reason people have given for posting March Madness over college football is that basketball is a worldwide sport - many countries play basketball while American football is only played in the USA. Another point going for March Madness is that there is gambling / non sports-interested fan involvement due to the nature of trying to make a "perfect" bracket. Natg 19 (talk) 01:50, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- I get your point. I suppose I should respond that the main reason the Championship promotion is such a big deal is because the Championship pays so little—the College Football Playoff TV deal pays more in a single year (for just 11 games) than the EFL does over five years for the entire competition. I have mixed feelings about this. I root for the college football equivalent of Fulham (when we are good) or QPR (when we are bad), and as we speak the Big Ten and Southeastern Conferences are trying to do to us what the EPL did to the EFL. It’s hard for me to get too invested in college football right now. I do think it is verifiably wrong to suggest that college football is less important to Americans than college basketball. The only reason I can think of for why March Madness gets posted at ITN is that college basketball has a more clearly defined nationwide cultural footprint: March is a notoriously slow month for American sports, so the basketball tournament tends to absorb the sports world’s attention. College football competes with the NFL, so there is less universality even if more people actually watch. Namelessposter (talk) 01:43, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Possibly less noteworthy than the Championship, which is the sixth-richest professional league in Europe and promotion from it offers the single largest monetary prize in sport at a minimum of £200 million (US$270 million). MB2437 00:33, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support - It feels wrong to dismiss NCAA football as "just another junior league". If we've historically put extremely niche sport championships in ITN before, I think we can afford to put something arguably more popular than its pro version up there. Stooberries (talk) 21:42, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose as this is just an amateur competition in a niche sport with highly limited potential for growth globally. The presented figures showing that this is a major event with high viewership don't make a strong case for posting. For instance, every El Clásico attracts large global audiences and hits very high viewership figures, but it doesn't mean that we should post it every time it takes place even though sometimes it's a final such as the most recent one. The Super Bowl is coming in less than three weeks, and that seems to be what we should post from this sport. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:11, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
as this is just an amateur competition
– how are players making more money than a Super Bowl quarterback amateur? BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:30, 21 January 2026 (UTC)- National Collegiate Athletic Association#Player eligibility begins with
The NCAA requires all of its athletes to be amateurs. All incoming athletes must be certified as amateurs. To remain eligible, athletes must not sign contract with sports clubs, earn a salary playing a sport, try out for professional sports, or enter into agreements with agents.
. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:36, 21 January 2026 (UTC)- It's amateur in name only. Real amateurs ("a person who engages in a sport on an unpaid rather than a professional basis") do not get paid millions of dollars to play. That section of the NCAA article is also years out of date. And regardless of that, we do post amateur events, such as the directly-equivalent yet less popular college basketball championship. Why is that important enough to post and not this? BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:41, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- If we post college basketball, it doesn't mean we should post this. Moreover, unlike American football, basketball is way more popular and attracts large audiences globally, so it's definitely not a niche sport. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:57, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Yet it's a useful precedent, and something to note is that college basketball is less popular than college football. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 00:00, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- The thing is: college basketball is less popular than college football. That we should post a basketball event that is less important because "well, overall basketball is more popular than football, even though this specific event is not as important" makes zero sense. We should post items based on whether they are important enough to be "In the News", not on whether the overall sport (but not the event in question) is more known. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:07, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- NCAA Division I men's basketball tournament#Popular culture reads
The NCAA tournament and the Super Bowl are two notable American sports events that draw both fans and non-fans.
. That whole section clearly tells me why March Madness is culturally significant in the US. I don't see an equivalent section in College Football Playoff National Championship to get a similar impression, so it's safe to assume that either our articles fail to document simple facts or what you're saying is just a personal opinion. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 00:15, 22 January 2026 (UTC)- From the national publication I linked in my nomination: "There is no argument: College football is the nation's second-most popular sport when factoring in ratings, attendance, hype and, of course, the billions generated. Only the NFL is bigger." BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:19, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- You can present zillion sources supporting the claim that "college football" is more popular than "college basketball", but it's clear that March Madness is more popular and culturally significant than this final that you nominated. If you disagree, you're strongly encouraged to expand the relevant articles with the content that you've collected in an attempt to make a case here. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 00:30, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
it's clear that March Madness is more popular
– Based on what? Your personal opinion? To base significance not on reliable sources, but on Wikipedia articles, of all things, is the absolute opposite of what we should be doing. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:40, 22 January 2026 (UTC)- This is all documented in the relevant article American football#Popularity and cultural influence:
In a 2014 poll conducted by Harris Interactive, professional football ranked as the most popular sport, and college football ranked third behind only professional football and baseball
. More recently, of the top 100 television broadcasts in 2025, 8 were college football games and only 1 was a college basketball game: [11]. EvansHallBear (talk) 00:44, 22 January 2026 (UTC)- @BeanieFan11: As I already mentioned above, comparing NCAA Division I men's basketball tournament with College Football Playoff National Championship clearly gives the impression that the March Madness is more popular and culturally significant than this final. You're the one trying to disregard the content in Wikipedia articles and promote your personal opinion based on the sources that you've collected. So, again, if you feel that you're right and there's incorrect information in the articles, you're encouraged to correct the mistakes and expand the relevant articles to demonstrate the significance you're talking about (you've apparently spent a substantial amount of time to bludgeon that you could've otherwise used to start improving the articles). At the end of the day, I'll surely rely on the content in the Wikipedia articles, which are result of the effort by a large community of editors, more than the opinion of a single editor who sticks to a single point. @EvansHallBear: We're not discussing how popular American football is, but whether this particular final is a bigger deal than March Madness as the two were compared in an argument that this should be posted because March Madness is. The available content on the English Wikipedia at the moment demonstrates that March Madness is way more popular and significant. You're also invited to help improve the articles if you find them incorrect. This discussion is over from my side. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:00, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- This is one of the most baffling arguments I have ever heard, to be honest with you, and runs completely contrary to how all processes at Wikipedia work. We base things on reliable sources and what they say. Meanwhile, you're disregarding many reliable sources and providing an unsupported assertion with zero evidence because ... you think a poorly-sourced Wikipedia article is more trustworthy than the biggest sports media outlets in the U.S.??? How does that make any sense? Do you seriously believe that a poorly-sourced Wikipedia article written by some random editor with no credentials (and an article that says nothing of it being more popular) is more reliable than the actual experts in the field who have clearly demonstrated that college football is more popular by every metric? You're also accusing me of bludgeoning the discussion when I've made the exact same number of comments as you, seven. There is no requirement that I expand the college football article in order for the obvious fact that college football is more popular to become true. And come on: it's not like you seriously would suddenly jump to "support" if I added a long section with the extensive data proving its more popular than not only March Madness, but also many, many of the other major events we post including the NHL Finals, NBA Finals, and others. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:41, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- +1 I can't say it better. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 17:10, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- This whole conversation is ridiculous. Editors don't want American sports overrepresented in ITN and that's fine. But all these made up arguments to justify it are nonsense. American football is the most popular sport in the third most populous country and has decent popularity outside the US. It's not some "niche" sport like Basque pelota or hurling. EvansHallBear (talk) 19:31, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- I think you're missing the point that it's the amateur nature of this event rather than the sport itself that is the issue here. But if you'd like to go down that road, the second most popular sport in the most populous country in the world (with 3 times the population of the US) is Kabaddi. Is that "niche"? How often do we post it? Black Kite (talk) 19:43, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- As has been mentioned, it's only nominally amateur with many players having multi-million dollar NIL contracts.
- I can't claim to know anything about kabaddi, but if 80+ million people watch the Pro Kabaddi League final that certainly seems significant to me. So no, I wouldn't call it niche either and would support it being brought to ITN subject to the usual quality considerations. EvansHallBear (talk) 20:08, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- I think you're missing the point that it's the amateur nature of this event rather than the sport itself that is the issue here. But if you'd like to go down that road, the second most popular sport in the most populous country in the world (with 3 times the population of the US) is Kabaddi. Is that "niche"? How often do we post it? Black Kite (talk) 19:43, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- In 2025, the college football final drew 22M television viewers compared to 18M for the March Madness final: [12]. Numerous other sources have been provided demonstrating that college football is more popular than college basketball. That college football is the 3rd most popular sport in the US (ahead of college basketball) is documented on Wikipedia. It would logically follow that the college football final is more popular than the college basketball final, and the viewership numbers obviously back this up. Nowhere on Wikipedia does it say that March Madness is more popular than college football – you've come to this conclusion based on a selective reading of articles to justify an argument. Continuing to falsely claim that March Madness is more popular than college football despite all evidence to the contrary is WP:IDHT. EvansHallBear (talk) 09:00, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Globally, however, interest in March Madness peaks considerably higher than college football at any point in the season. MB2437 02:03, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- I don’t think anyone quite understands how that happened, given that the college football final averaged 30M viewers and last March’s college basketball final averaged 18M. It may be associated with the general spike in popularity in women’s sports. Namelessposter (talk) 02:13, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah, I also noticed on Trends that "women's March Madness" was comparable to "men's March Madness", albeit people are more likely to default "March Madness" to the men's division. MB2437 02:22, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- As I mentioned in a different comment, the reason for this is brackets. According to our March Madness article,
an estimated 60 to 100 million brackets are filled out each year
(per a Sports Illustrated source). March Madness is an odd "cultural event" where filling out brackets and trying to predict the winners (also gambling involved with this) are more important than watching the games themselves. Also, this may mean that the first week of March Madness (upsets, "bracket busters", perfect picks) garners more coverage / viewers than the final game. Natg 19 (talk) 03:03, 23 January 2026 (UTC)- But people filled out brackets before last year, and yet MB's graph indicates that March Madness was neck and neck with the CFP on global trends (let alone domestic trends) until last year. In any event, a lot of the discussion I've seen here and that you've summarized turns on the global scale of ITN. March Madness bracketology is still a very America-specific thing, so I don't know how relevant it is to the ITN discussion. I'm not saying we should get rid of March Madness from the ITN rotation, I'm just saying that I don't see why March Madness gets in but the CFP does not. From a global viewpoint they are more similar than different. For what it's worth, I don't think it's fair to say that the first week of March Madness outstrips the final: last year the first week averaged 9.4M viewers through the second round to the final's 18M. Namelessposter (talk) 04:57, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- I don’t think anyone quite understands how that happened, given that the college football final averaged 30M viewers and last March’s college basketball final averaged 18M. It may be associated with the general spike in popularity in women’s sports. Namelessposter (talk) 02:13, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Globally, however, interest in March Madness peaks considerably higher than college football at any point in the season. MB2437 02:03, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- This is one of the most baffling arguments I have ever heard, to be honest with you, and runs completely contrary to how all processes at Wikipedia work. We base things on reliable sources and what they say. Meanwhile, you're disregarding many reliable sources and providing an unsupported assertion with zero evidence because ... you think a poorly-sourced Wikipedia article is more trustworthy than the biggest sports media outlets in the U.S.??? How does that make any sense? Do you seriously believe that a poorly-sourced Wikipedia article written by some random editor with no credentials (and an article that says nothing of it being more popular) is more reliable than the actual experts in the field who have clearly demonstrated that college football is more popular by every metric? You're also accusing me of bludgeoning the discussion when I've made the exact same number of comments as you, seven. There is no requirement that I expand the college football article in order for the obvious fact that college football is more popular to become true. And come on: it's not like you seriously would suddenly jump to "support" if I added a long section with the extensive data proving its more popular than not only March Madness, but also many, many of the other major events we post including the NHL Finals, NBA Finals, and others. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:41, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: As I already mentioned above, comparing NCAA Division I men's basketball tournament with College Football Playoff National Championship clearly gives the impression that the March Madness is more popular and culturally significant than this final. You're the one trying to disregard the content in Wikipedia articles and promote your personal opinion based on the sources that you've collected. So, again, if you feel that you're right and there's incorrect information in the articles, you're encouraged to correct the mistakes and expand the relevant articles to demonstrate the significance you're talking about (you've apparently spent a substantial amount of time to bludgeon that you could've otherwise used to start improving the articles). At the end of the day, I'll surely rely on the content in the Wikipedia articles, which are result of the effort by a large community of editors, more than the opinion of a single editor who sticks to a single point. @EvansHallBear: We're not discussing how popular American football is, but whether this particular final is a bigger deal than March Madness as the two were compared in an argument that this should be posted because March Madness is. The available content on the English Wikipedia at the moment demonstrates that March Madness is way more popular and significant. You're also invited to help improve the articles if you find them incorrect. This discussion is over from my side. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:00, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- You can present zillion sources supporting the claim that "college football" is more popular than "college basketball", but it's clear that March Madness is more popular and culturally significant than this final that you nominated. If you disagree, you're strongly encouraged to expand the relevant articles with the content that you've collected in an attempt to make a case here. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 00:30, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- From the national publication I linked in my nomination: "There is no argument: College football is the nation's second-most popular sport when factoring in ratings, attendance, hype and, of course, the billions generated. Only the NFL is bigger." BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:19, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- NCAA Division I men's basketball tournament#Popular culture reads
- If we post college basketball, it doesn't mean we should post this. Moreover, unlike American football, basketball is way more popular and attracts large audiences globally, so it's definitely not a niche sport. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:57, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- It's amateur in name only. Real amateurs ("a person who engages in a sport on an unpaid rather than a professional basis") do not get paid millions of dollars to play. That section of the NCAA article is also years out of date. And regardless of that, we do post amateur events, such as the directly-equivalent yet less popular college basketball championship. Why is that important enough to post and not this? BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:41, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- National Collegiate Athletic Association#Player eligibility begins with
- College basketball and football in the United States ceased to be amateur sports ever since NIL became a thing. Let's not use this argument in 2026 because this is now factually incorrect. You can all this "junior" or "under-X" (apparently that even is wrong) version of gridiron but these players are paid to play. Howard the Duck (talk) 00:19, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for precisifying. Calling it a "junior" event illustrates the same point. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 00:30, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose - there's a handful of cases where the top level of a sport only played in one country get's blurbed. But this is not the highest level of this particular sport in that country. I don't see that school sports matches should be blurbed. I'm not even convinced that the top level of one-country sports should be blurbed. Nfitz (talk) 03:00, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose National-level university match. Not really important on the world sport stage. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 19:46, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- But 5th and (cause COVID) 6th year college students who would've graduated already at the end of year 4 if a normal college student are playing they're often 22 to 24 year old grown men who are skilled enough to play in the NFL already but don't for glory or self-improvement or trying to win their 1st college championship or money (millions of dollars of guaranteed name image and likeness money) or etc. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 23:04, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Again, its still just a glorified schools competition for a sport only 1 nation plays. It doesn't meet the worldwide significance standard critera of ITN. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 14:08, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- ITN does not have "worldwide significance standard critera". Where is this coming from? Howard the Duck (talk) 13:42, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Again, its still just a glorified schools competition for a sport only 1 nation plays. It doesn't meet the worldwide significance standard critera of ITN. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 14:08, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose Previous consensus is that this is not a significant event on its own, and I don't see anything different here to change that. A friendly suggestion to WP:HEAR so we don't go through this in future years.Let'srun (talk) 16:13, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose Surprised to see any serious consideration of this in view of the extensive precedent at ITN. US sports are more than well represented at ITNR, we are not going to overlook those and feature their amateur collegiate versions. Gotitbro (talk) 01:44, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose Per Gotitbro and Modest Genius. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 15:49, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- This goes nowhere. Time to close the nomination _-_Alsor (talk) 19:34, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
(Posted blurb) RD/Blurb: Valentino (fashion designer)
[edit]Recent deaths nomination
Blurb: Italian fashion designer Valentino (pictured), best known for his eponymous fashion house, dies at age 93. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Italian fashion designer Valentino (pictured) dies at age 93.
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:
- Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
- Updated by ItsShandog (talk · give credit), Mb2437 (talk · give credit) and TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.
Nominator's comments: Italian fashion designer. Thriley (talk) 17:21, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality for now article is full of CN tags. A lot of work is needed. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:27, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Alsor97: How about now? TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:41, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support blurb nice work. Article looks good now. Valentino, one of the most important figures in fashion history, as can be seen in the Legacy section and worldwide obituaries. One of the last in the great saga of fashion designers from the second half of the 20th century. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:47, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Alsor97: How about now? TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:41, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support blurb as he was one of the best known names at the top of his field. As NBC notes, "Valentino was ranked alongside Giorgio Armani (ITN blurb) and Karl Lagerfeld (ITN blurb) as the last of the great designers from an era before fashion became [commercialized]."[1] Quality is a bit iffy, so I hope to help update this article later. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 18:38, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment This is going to need a lot of work even for RD, much less a blurb. For those that believe this to be one (and I'm not doubting why he might be considered for one) please focus on trying to improve the discussion related to his legacy and impact on the fashion world which the article is drsparately missing Masem (t) 19:18, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support blurb as he was definitely one of the greatest and most influential fashion designers (pretty much of the same stature as Armani).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 19:24, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support blurb as per Nice4What and Kiril Simeonovski. Iconic fashion designer. Khuft (talk) 19:32, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support blurb per Nice4What. The Kip (contribs) 21:07, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support blurb - per already mentioned reasons above.BabbaQ (talk) 21:10, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support blurb - iconic Italian fashion designer,
but currently oppose on quality. -GhostStalker (Got a present for ya! / Mission Log) 21:36, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- support now, much improved in quality. -GhostStalker (Got a present for ya! / Mission Log) 10:42, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Strong support. Valentino was a very famous person. Famous people get blurbed often. 🍡 DangoDino 🍡 (talk) 22:10, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support blurb when ready A lot of CN tags. ArionStar (talk) 23:06, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb we can't be serious This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 01:50, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- I'm so confused as to how this has gotten so much support. Valentino isn't even mentioned in the Fashion design article, which mentions loads of other brands. The company had a revenue of barely over $1 billion, nowhere near competitors like Hermès, Ralph Lauren, or Gucci. I wouldn't argue it isn't even among the most important Italian brands, let alone worldwide. Garavani himself is not a well-known personality either.–DMartin (talk) 23:31, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb not up to Anna Wintour or Ralph Lauren levels of prominence Omnifalcon (talk) 02:05, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support blurb Definitely influential in his field and the tribute section does touch on the impact he left on the fashion world, although I feel the article would benefit from a fleshed out legacy section. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:15, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment Per the remarks above, I will work on copyediting and sourcing this morning to bring the quality up. MB2437 05:04, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
Not ready for front page yet– Great work on expanding the death section so thoroughly. Looks like good blurb material, though of course it requires some refimprove first. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 07:30, 20 January 2026 (UTC)- @Maplestrip: How about now? TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:42, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Strong support blurb – Awesome work. Great example of Wikipedia's power, ideal ITN material :) ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 09:34, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Maplestrip: How about now? TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:42, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose Blurb If this person was truly significant, then it would follow that the Wikipedia entry for him would just be "Valentino" without the occupation in brackets. Valentino is just a disambiguation page, with this person and various other people with that name. Chrisclear (talk) 08:43, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- It primarily disambiguates from the fashion house he founded. MB2437 08:48, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Non-sequitur. The posting of Prince (musician) could not seriously have been opposed on this basis, and in half a century there would not be the same argument posted seriously against the posting of Drake (musician). ~2026-42750-3 (talk) 12:09, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- To be fair, "Prince" and "Drake" are also words. Valentino is just a name, and he is clearly not the most notable one if the article has parentheses.–DMartin (talk) 23:33, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Because the disambig is the eponymous fashion house he founded? GhostStalker (Got a present for ya! / Mission Log) 10:45, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- To be fair, "Prince" and "Drake" are also words. Valentino is just a name, and he is clearly not the most notable one if the article has parentheses.–DMartin (talk) 23:33, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Comment Again not disputing that he would be appropriate for a blurb knowing what little I know of his impact on the fashion industry, but the article is still missing this part of the content. The death has a tributes section that touches on that, but he was known as a leader of the fashion industry well before his death and I urge editors to look for sources that establish that pre-death (though post-death sources are still good to add). And there are still quality problems like on the Home Decoration section and its big orange tag. Masem (t) 12:29, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Masem: I've expanded his legacy section a bit and fixed up the Home decoration section. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:42, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Blurb on notability per all above. His death is being widely covered and in turns of impact, definitely passes the bar given his mark on the global fashion industry. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 13:07, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support blurb per above and the precedent of Armani. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 19:07, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support blurb when ready - a major figure in the field. GenevieveDEon (talk) 22:00, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support blurb, should be good-to-go now. All sections have been expanded and sourced. MB2437 23:15, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Strong oppose blurb for the usual reasons. We cannot be posting to ITN every time an elderly person who used to be famous dies. We have recent deaths for a reason. Not globally known, and Valentino's death with not have farreaching consequences.–DMartin (talk) 23:21, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
Any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post
. MB2437 23:35, 20 January 2026 (UTC)- That only applies to recent deaths, not blurbs. I have nothing against posting to RD.–DMartin (talk) 23:37, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Still have the very recent Armani precedent to consider, to whom he is considered of equal importance in fashion.[13][14] MB2437 23:41, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- I don't think precedent is a valid argument unless something is in ITNR. Just because we've made mistakes in the past doesn't mean we should continue making them.–DMartin (talk) 00:01, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Just because you disagree with Armani getting blurbed doesn’t make it a mistake either. Like other death blurbs, this article establishes why the subject is impactful and influential in his field. Multiple international obits have hailed his as one of the most influential designers of our time and the subject is receiving extensive coverage. Just because someone influential dies from
- old age shouldn’t negate their impact/blurbability so to speak. When someone young dies, we question how impact/influential they’ve been to their field and whenever someone old dies we shrug their impact and influential status off because they died in their 80s or 90s. For me personally, like what others are saying is that Valentino is an official designer and certainly top of his field as was Armani and how Lauren and Wintour will be assessed too. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 03:03, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- I don't think precedent is a valid argument unless something is in ITNR. Just because we've made mistakes in the past doesn't mean we should continue making them.–DMartin (talk) 00:01, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Still have the very recent Armani precedent to consider, to whom he is considered of equal importance in fashion.[13][14] MB2437 23:41, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- That only applies to recent deaths, not blurbs. I have nothing against posting to RD.–DMartin (talk) 23:37, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- This is akin to if I !voted against posting a blurb because "We can't be posting a blurb every time one of all 193 countries on Earth has an election", "We can't be posting a sports blurb every time some team wins a tournament", or even "We can't be posting a blurb every time someone wins a prize". Posting blurbs about all of those types of things are, by definition, what ITN is designed for. We post blurbs about elections. We post blurbs about sports tournaments. We post blurbs about people winning prizes. We post blurbs about old famous people dying. Why? Because all four of those categories of events can be subjects of an article featured on the encyclopedia which is "in the news". Personal editor opinions that one category is more or less "important" to post than the other does not dissuade from the fact that posting each of those sorts of blurbs is intrinsic to ITN. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 04:40, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- "We cannot be posting to ITN every time an elderly person who used to be famous dies" - why not? CohenTheBohemian (talk) 15:45, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Because of a clique here on ITNC of some regulars who push OLDMANDIES as a rationale to oppose, despite the recent RFC to remove death blurbs having failed. GhostStalker (Got a present for ya! / Mission Log) 19:03, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- There is a small group of editors who consistently and disruptively oppose every deathblurb without the support of policy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Chorchapu (talk | edits) 19:24, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Chorchapu: Please don't cast aspersions. Having a difference of opinion in what counts as a notable death is not "disruptive". There seems to be a small group of editors who believe that anyone with a significant article should be blurbed, I wouldn't say they're disruptive.–DMartin (talk) 01:24, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Having differences in opinion is perfectly fine, but going around and opposing every single deathblurb with a boilerplate message is very much disruptive. The RfC on this failed quite substantially and the extreme-anti-deathblurb cohort has been read the riot act (wt) a fair few times before. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 01:33, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Chorchapu: Please don't cast aspersions. Having a difference of opinion in what counts as a notable death is not "disruptive". There seems to be a small group of editors who believe that anyone with a significant article should be blurbed, I wouldn't say they're disruptive.–DMartin (talk) 01:24, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Posted. Black Kite (talk) 19:25, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Copyvio It's fairly clear that the posted image is a copyright violation -- see WP:ERRORS for details. Without an image, the article lacks the quality expected and so should be relegated to RD until another image can be found. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:25, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Huh? This could still be blurbed without an image. Natg 19 (talk) 21:27, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Andrew Davidson: Not having an image is by no means a reason to pull/demote a blurb. Besides, there's this one image of him in 2007. Problem solved. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:39, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- No, the primary problem is not solved because ITN is still displaying a copyvio on the main page. And another image will need checking and protecting which takes time. And, in my view, the absence of an image is a significant quality issue; I don't recall a previous major figure blurb being posted without an image. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:43, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, the problem has been solved. The suggested replacement image is now up on ITN, was verified by commons (all of which was done pretty quickly from what I saw) and per Masem: there's no requirement for an article's quality to be determined if there's a lack of an image. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:46, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- No, the primary problem is not solved because ITN is still displaying a copyvio on the main page. And another image will need checking and protecting which takes time. And, in my view, the absence of an image is a significant quality issue; I don't recall a previous major figure blurb being posted without an image. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:43, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Also there is no requirement that to be if quality we need a lede image, if copyright/nonfree is a limiting factor. Masem (t) 21:42, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Has been fixed by @Jlwoodwa:. Natg 19 (talk) 21:46, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- The new image of Valentino has been up for days now and Amakuru cropped it so that it looks awful to me. Not a good look, especially for a fashion guru. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:42, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- I actually prefer the cropped image, the other one looked worse and made me feel like it was meant to extend past the edge of the screen. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 16:02, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Post-Posting Oppose Qualifies for RD, however it simply doesn't have the coverage for a Blurb. Except in very special cases, I am opposed to Blurbing RDs, and this is not a special case. Again this might be personal, but we have a single dead guy headlining with an image over a massive sporting event and a geopolitical crisis. Normalman101 (talk) 17:15, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Post-Posting Oppose - RD blurbs are the exception, not the rule. I don't think this guy was in the top dozen - and hardly a household name. Nfitz (talk) 03:09, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- What? That is simply not true. One of the biggest names in the business, and a very popular brand as well.BabbaQ (talk) 07:30, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Mmm, I have some sympathy for that view, actually. Have I heard of the brand? Yes. Would I have thought of it if you'd asked me to name five (or even ten) famous fashion brands? No. According to some random Googling, Valentino was not even in the top 50 fashion brands by market cap in 2024. Black Kite (talk) 08:21, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- His death was reported by world media. And named a ”fashion icon”.BabbaQ (talk) 09:17, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Valentino was primarily known in fashion for his haute couture, which dominated the celebrity scene in the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s. He worked very closely with Jackie Kennedy and Princess Diana, to name a couple. Funnily enough, a privately-owned subsidiary of Kering and Mayhoola would not be listed by market cap (the 2023 sale valued it at $6.7 billion, over four-times greater than the value of Prada and higher than the market cap of Burberry, VS, Abercrombie, AEO, [...]). Having a big brand name, however, is still secondary to one's achievements and acclaim as a designer. He has been rated alongside Armani and Lagerfield in several obits. MB2437 10:35, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Mmm, I have some sympathy for that view, actually. Have I heard of the brand? Yes. Would I have thought of it if you'd asked me to name five (or even ten) famous fashion brands? No. According to some random Googling, Valentino was not even in the top 50 fashion brands by market cap in 2024. Black Kite (talk) 08:21, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- What? That is simply not true. One of the biggest names in the business, and a very popular brand as well.BabbaQ (talk) 07:30, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Post-posting oppose. Blurbing every single fashion designer with some renown sets a dangerous precedent, plus doesn't have the pull/international significance of a Lauren or an Armani. Plus most of the supporters really provided no rationale, but it's the opposers that get piled on so as such don't bother replying to this. Wizardman 13:33, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Valentino is ”not just any fashion designer”. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXIST.BabbaQ (talk) 15:36, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- I certainly agree that Valentino has been over-exposed now that he's been up for days with a dodgy photo. We should give Gladys West top billing instead. Her achievement was far more impressive -- figuring out the vital maths for GPS -- and she has a much better quality picture too. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:31, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
RD: Roger Allers
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:
- Nominated by The Vital One (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.
Nominator's comments: American animator and director of The Lion King The Vital One (talk) 18:29, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Article is of sufficient quality for RD. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:46, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support Notable film director and the article is of good quality. Guz13 (talk) 23:32, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support - long enough. Sources looks ok. Ready.BabbaQ (talk) 16:24, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose Unsourced filmography. Per WP:ITNQUALITY:
—Bagumba (talk) 23:39, 21 January 2026 (UTC)Lists of awards and honors, bibliographies and filmographies and the like should have clear sources.
- Oppose Per Bagumba. Let'srun (talk) 16:21, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Filmography has remained unsourced. Please add more REFs. Time is running out for this nom. --PFHLai (talk) 02:43, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
References
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- ^ "Valentino, founder of Italian luxury empire, dies at 93". Retrieved 19 January 2026.